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- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
Did you even click the link?
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
Ah, yeah, I forgot:
We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were- cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
Innovation from other countries is not subjected to similar scrutiny
This is simply not true.
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
I tried to point out that you should be equally as mad at OpenAI/Google/the rest of the western AI companies as you are at the DeepSeek
This exactly is whataboutism. The issue here is DeepSeek. There are many articles here where people are “equally as mad” about OpenAI?Google and the rest of Western AI, but in these threads, you never read, “But China, …”. This whataboutism appears to work only in one direction.
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
There’s nothing sinophobic here. The linked article on China’s AI policy cites an official Chinese source. It comes directly from the Chinese government.
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
In addition to what @DdCno1@beehaw.org’s comment, this is not ‘only’ about biases we all have. It is about intentionally intentionally built-in propaganda supporting Chinese state narrative. As I wrote already in this thread, the Chinese government outlined its plan regarding AI in its so-called “AI Capacity Building and Inclusiveness Plan”. It reads:
[Chinese] Government rhetoric draws a direct line between AI exports and existing initiatives to expand China’s influence overseas, such as Xi Jinping’s signature Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Global Development Initiative (GDI). In this case, the more influence China has over AI overseas, the more it can dictate the technology’s development in other countries […]
[According to the Chinese government] AI must not be used to interfere in another country’s internal affairs — language that the PRC has invoked for as long as it has existed, both to bring nations of the global south on board in China’s ongoing efforts to seize Taiwan and to deflect international criticism of its human rights record […]
The whole article makes a good read.
- Comment on ‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot 3 weeks ago:
We’re talking about developments in AI tech, and you want to make it about Tiananmen Square .
Please don’t use whataboutism to distract from the core issue here. DeepSeek follows the Chinese government’s rules, meaning it has biases intentionally built-in to spread misinformation and propaganda by the Chinese Communist Party. You may read my comment and the source in in this thread.
- Facebook flags Linux topics as 'cybersecurity threats' — posts and users being blockedwww.tomshardware.com ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 38 comments
- Imprisoned Australian-Chinese writer forced to choose between food and clothes in Beijing jailwww.smh.com.au ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to worldnews@aussie.zone | 0 comments
- Have Chinese car exports peaked? - Trade barriers and outright bans in major global markets threaten to stall export momentum which could lead to industry consolidation, researchers sayrhg.com ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 0 comments
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
Please don’t use whataboutism to justify state-orchestrated misinformation by a dictatorial government.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
This is blatant misinformation. Everything from China has to do with the Chinese state, including software made by private companies. There is ample evidence for this. Please see also my comment and the source in this thread.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
The Chinese government has some special ‘features’ (or bugs, if you want to put it that way). See, for example, my comments here in this thread.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
This is a bit more complex.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
Aha. Thanks for the insight.
- Comment on Exporting the Tools of Dictatorship: The Politics of China’s Technology Transfers 3 weeks ago:
@MrKurtz@lemm.ee @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
I guess this should be only an ad for a magazine and is unrelated to the article, but the website design (or maybe a mistake by the designer) makes it indeed look as if it is related.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
This is how you make progress for all humanity. Allowing people to freely learn, improve, modify, and share.
You are free to learn ‘Xi Jinping thought.’ Doubt this is for the progress of humanity.
- Comment on China’s DeepSeek AI poses formidable cyber, data privacy threats 3 weeks ago:
The “open” AI tech comes with censorship and politically biased code. Once again we must note that the base for China’s AI development is the so-called “AI Capacity Building and Inclusiveness Plan”:
[Chinese] Government rhetoric draws a direct line between AI exports and existing initiatives to expand China’s influence overseas, such as Xi Jinping’s signature Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Global Development Initiative (GDI). In this case, the more influence China has over AI overseas, the more it can dictate the technology’s development in other countries […]
[According to the Chinese government] AI must not be used to interfere in another country’s internal affairs — language that the PRC has invoked for as long as it has existed, both to bring nations of the global south on board in China’s ongoing efforts to seize Taiwan and to deflect international criticism of its human rights record […]
The whole article makes a good read. If you want “open technology” free of oligarchical and or similar political power, you need to look elsewhere.
- Submitted 3 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 40 comments
- Comment on Chinese AI lab DeepSeek massively undercuts OpenAI on pricing — and that's spooking tech stocks 3 weeks ago:
The ‘cheap’ AI from China comes with a hefty price that’s not worth it.
Following @DdCno1@beehaw.org’s comment in this thread, the article appears to be the same Chinese propaganda narrative we haven been observing in the past. And it is misleading.
I have been posting this recently, and it perfectly fits here again. The base for China’s AI development is the so-called “AI Capacity Building and Inclusiveness Plan” which is aimed particularly at the Global South:
[Chinese] Government rhetoric draws a direct line between AI exports and existing initiatives to expand China’s influence overseas, such as Xi Jinping’s signature Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Global Development Initiative (GDI). In this case, the more influence China has over AI overseas, the more it can dictate the technology’s development in other countries […]
[According to the Chinese government] AI must not be used to interfere in another country’s internal affairs — language that the PRC has invoked for as long as it has existed, both to bring nations of the global south on board in China’s ongoing efforts to seize Taiwan and to deflect international criticism of its human rights record […]
[For example] China’s decision to co-launch its AI Capacity Building plan with Zambia also had a symbolic element. PRC state media reported that the African nation was the recipient of thousands of Chinese workers and hundreds of millions of RMB in loans in the 1960s, making it the beneficiary of one of China’s earliest overseas infrastructure projects — another thread connecting the latest in AI cooperation with China’s long-held ambitions to lead the developing world, even as it becomes a superpower in its own right. In a 2018 meeting with the Zambian president, Xi said they must jointly “safeguard the common interests of developing countries.” […]
- ‘TikTok Refugees’ Flocking to China’s RedNote App Experience Intersection of Free Speech and Censorship While The Chinese App Seeks To Meet Censorship Requirements Set By Beijingwww.newsweek.com ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 15 comments
- MPs and peers start inquiry into Russian and Chinese sabotage threats to subsea internet cableswww.computerweekly.com ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk | 1 comment
- Exporting the Tools of Dictatorship: The Politics of China’s Technology Transferswww.cambridge.org ↗Submitted 3 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 4 comments
- Comment on How a top Chinese AI model overcame US sanctions 3 weeks ago:
There is no such thing as a ‘top Chinese AI model’ but rather propaganda tools. In addition to bbb’s comment, we must note that China is trying to sell its self-defined “core socialist values” in AI along with other projects. The base for this is the so-called “AI Capacity Building and Inclusiveness Plan” which is aimed particularly at the Global South:
[Chinese] Government rhetoric draws a direct line between AI exports and existing initiatives to expand China’s influence overseas, such as Xi Jinping’s signature Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Global Development Initiative (GDI). In this case, the more influence China has over AI overseas, the more it can dictate the technology’s development in other countries […]
[According to the Chinese government] AI must not be used to interfere in another country’s internal affairs — language that the PRC has invoked for as long as it has existed, both to bring nations of the global south on board in China’s ongoing efforts to seize Taiwan and to deflect international criticism of its human rights record […]
[For example] China’s decision to co-launch its AI Capacity Building plan with Zambia also had a symbolic element. PRC state media reported that the African nation was the recipient of thousands of Chinese workers and hundreds of millions of RMB in loans in the 1960s, making it the beneficiary of one of China’s earliest overseas infrastructure projects — another thread connecting the latest in AI cooperation with China’s long-held ambitions to lead the developing world, even as it becomes a superpower in its own right. In a 2018 meeting with the Zambian president, Xi said they must jointly “safeguard the common interests of developing countries.” […]
- Comment on Spanish PM calls to end social media anonymity, force digital ID 3 weeks ago:
Seems Chinese investments in Spain tbreaten to pay off. The Spanish PM starts parroting the CCP’s viewpoints on digital surveillance.
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- Comment on Developer releases ShrimpMoss, a dataset designed to abliterate Chinese censorship and propaganda finetunes from LLMs 4 weeks ago:
Abliteration involves fine-tuning a language model to bypass built-in refusal mechanisms that prevent the model from generating responses to potentially harmful or sensitive prompts. Source
- Developer releases ShrimpMoss, a dataset designed to abliterate Chinese censorship and propaganda finetunes from LLMshuggingface.co ↗Submitted 4 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 3 comments
- US cloud could soon be illegal in the EU as Trump punches first hole in EU-US data deal, European digital rights group Noyb saysnoyb.eu ↗Submitted 4 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 0 comments
- US cloud could soon be illegal in the EU as Trump punches first hole in EU-US data deal, European digital rights groups Noyb saysnoyb.eu ↗Submitted 4 weeks ago to technology@beehaw.org | 4 comments