85% Of Car Drivers Break 20mph Speed Limits, Reveals U.K.’s Department For Transport

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• Mickeypeach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve tried driving at 20mph on some of those roads and you get so much traffic up your arse that it feels dangerous. I assume they just want you to slow down below 30mph. I will say I think it’s a lot more than 85%.

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  • Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The data shows 70-90%. However, about half are no more than 5 mph over the limit.

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    It also details the caveat that almost all of the 20 mph roads measured are free-flow areas without traffic calming, and it doesn’t represent the majority of 20 mph roads where traffic calming is present and traffic will naturally be slower. So, basically they’re measuring compliance in 20 mph zones that don’t really feel like 20 mph zones.

    Compliance is much better for 30, 60 and 70 mph limits.

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    • C4d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So it’s ok to comply with laws when it feels right?

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only safe way to deal with tailgaters is to slow down gradually. If you fall into the trap speeding up to create more distance, then your braking time will inevitably reduce and they will have less reaction time. This will also result in a harder collision if one occurs.

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• clara@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  it’s simple. asking people to do the right thing (i.e slowdown), out of the kindness of their hearts, is laughable.

  if you build the street in such a way that driving above it’s design limits is impossible, then people wont do it. surprisingly, the threat of their car being damaged or totaled will force compliance with the intended speed limit. if this was done correctly on a large scale, speed limit posts wouldn’t even be required - the street layout would naturally dictate the speeds you can drive at.

  for UK streets, this can be retrofitted with chicanes, curb extensions, raised pedestrian crossings, etc. increasing the amount that a driver has to think to drive down a street, automatically makes them slower. oh, and none of those stupid painted chicanes and bumps either, you think anyone cares about those? lol. actually build the damned curb extensions

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  • stevecrox@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That is how you kill people.

    The design of the road, the street furniture, things like pedestrian traffic, parking, etc.. will all affect how people drive along the road.

    If you just drop the speed limit people will have to actively concentrate on their speed. If you don't actively enforce the speed limit people will concentrate on driving over speed adherence.

    Adding chicanes, speed bumps, etc.. will slow people down but change how people drive a roads and can introduce new hazards.

    I know of roads with no deaths that added speed bumps which now kill a person each year, a road that added chicanes that immediately suffered multiple crashes per day until they were removed.

    Heck traffic calming where I currently live, was perfectly safe and brilliant until a new housing estate opened. The housing estate has increased traffic which has slowed the road but the traffic calming now suffers alot of near misses and emergency breaking because of the increased traffic. The road would now be safer without it and a speed camera placed at a key point.

    Road Safety isn't something you can magically solve by dropping the speed limit or just adding chicanes. You need to think about alot.

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• Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  85% of the UK are criminals, I thought Australia was supposed to solve that for us.

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  • RobotToaster@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My understanding is most 20mph zones are simply advisory, as they don’t have traffic orders.

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    • andthenthreemore@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are not.

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    • abrasiveteapot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Used to be years ago, but law changed some time in the last few years

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• Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    20mph zones are usually created because of an issue. Either idiots speeding repetitively or some poor sod being hit by a speeding car.

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If people are already speeding, lowering the limit will do little.

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  • essteeyou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Make them 30mph and then 85% of people will break the new speed limit. Keep it low and at least their speed is likely to be lower.

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    • Falmarri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is just wrong. Studies show people drive the speed they feel is safe.

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    • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah they cover that in the report:

      On roads with a 30mph maximum, 50% of car drivers broke the law

      I mean that’s still too high and there’s no need for it.

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