Debate: Therapy Is A Scam

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨squashkin@wolfballs.com⁩ to ⁨freeforum@wolfballs.com⁩

I think psychological insights can be helpful which people can read about and put in to practice, and talking to people but they don't need to be therapists

Also I think sometimes the root cause of some mental illness is guilt, for example the left supporting immoral practices and thus being more mentally ill, so a lot of these therapists are just rationalizers who don't acknowledge the root problem and encourage mentally ill leftists to stop supporting such mentally ill practices as they support them as well

I was getting a sensible chuckle being reminded of this topic seeing some leftists recommending therapy to each other

then of course there's the sketchiness of people who would gaslight you if you oppose therapy by saying that you actually need it (as if you have no choice in the matter), or like in therapy people being guilt tripped to talk about things they might not want to talk about, or accusing people of having harmful beliefs that might be genuine beliefs they don't share (like that Trump has some kind of personality disorder).

what a minefield

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Sal@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

I think psychological insights can be helpful which people can read about and put in to practice

You seem to be type of person that would go out of their way to read and study in order to learn how to improve yourself and your environment. Thinking that this is 'normal' and that it is common for others to think and see the world the same way as you do is a form of cognitive bias. The reality is that an overwhelming majority people would not in a hundred years pick up a 101 psychology book if they are not forced to - and even if they are, they might not pay enough attention to it to assimilate this knowledge in a meaningful way.

You may be lucky enough to have introspective skills and the patience to help yourself, and you might find anything that a therapist tells you to be obvious, and having a conversation with them or doing any exercises they ask you to do might feel like a waste of time. And it might be. But you have to understand that there are 30 year olds that don't know what the words 'anxiety', 'depersonalization', or 'tinnitus' mean, and even having a professional explain to them what these things are and why they are happening can already bring them an intense sense of relief.

Therapists are there to explain to patients the technical nomenclature to be able to describe and investigate their symptoms, teach them journaling techniques to become able to identify triggers that exacerbate or help improve their mental state, recommend techniques to build healthier habits, and in some cases recommend the patient to a psychiatrist so that they can be treated with drugs.

Some of us can take proactive steps to achieve all of these things by ourselves, but not all of us. And having a professional can definitely help.

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Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
I read that nearly 100% of people that jumped off of bridges (that survived) regretted the decision almost as soon as it was too late to do anything about it. The ones I read about made mid-course corrections to increase their chance of survival.

If I were king of the world, I would make a suicide simulator that would be convincing and real. Let people jump off of a bridge or push them off, anything so they can feel that 'OH CRAP' moment and know in their heart that this is the end.

Of course it would be safe, I think that it would be very effective as well.

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Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago
Therapy can be valuable when you are ready for it. That means it is not always valuable.

The whole mental health system in America is a joke. It is a huge CYA to society. The entire system exists so that people can say they tried to help but they care nothing about efficacy.

Lets look at one issue. Medication. SSRIs are horrible. I will give you that, but they can provide some relief.

NOW, if you are truly struggling with depression holding onto stable employment can be near impossible. How do you arrange Doctor visits to get a prescription and afford medication all while struggling with depression?

You can't, not long term. Staying on medication is difficult, and what about people that have fallen out of society, how do they get help to get back into society? They don't. The programs that are there exist so that people can collect a paycheck, they count heads going in and out of the system as 'people helped' but never actually stop to see if their lives were improved at all.

I have no end of loathing for the mental health system in America.

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