Comment on Communism
fakir@lemm.ee 1 week agoThe answer is that the Proletarian state, one dominated by the Proletariat and not the Bourgeoisie, gradually wrests from the Bourgeoisie its Capital with respect to the degree that it has developed.
How does one get a Proletarin state? It seems that any state would be susceptible to corruption & greed? It’s what we have everywhere in the world.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Revolution is required to bring it about. You can observe the various successes and struggles faced by existing Socialist societies and historical Socialist societies to see what has worked and what hasn’t quite worked for how to organize it.
Moreover, every system is going to be susceptible to corruption and greed, Socialism would be more resiliant against it due to focusing production on fulfilling needs, rather than profits as a rule.
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Revolution = power vacuum.
Human nature = craves power.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Not necessarily, this is extremely oversimplified.
First, Marxists advocate for building Dual Power, ie an existing “second government” to take the place of the first.
Second, Humans don’t “crave power.” Humans work towards their own self-interest, but this alone doesn’t translate to “power.”
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Advocate. Its a nice sediment. But in reality a strongman will fill that vacuum. Always has, always will.
Let’s substitute the word power for dominion. The “ideal” human doesn’t want power or dominion, but you and I don’t live in that world. People in every nation on this Earth have a presiding desire for control; control nature, control the elements, control others. Everywhere humans want control over others.
It may not be the way we want it to be, but it is how it is.