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Couple considerations: what is a nation to do when it constantly is on the verge of civil war, hasnt had breathing room to get its feet under it after a political revolution and is beset by brand new, world power level enemies doing everything they can to make sure your new nation fails?

Followup: when has this not been the case for a new communist nation? How many coups has the US backed? How many times did we try to assassinate Castro? Vietnam?

Finally: what does it look like when none of the above is true?

We tend to think of nations in a vacuum, but they exist along side each other and they have people like us inside them. Stupid, greedy, lying, shitbags that are full of empathy, love and curiousity, just like us. That makes them messy by definition, but its easy to forget.

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Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It looks like a European welfare state, because instead of upending the system and ending up in an authoritarian nightmare, people are compromising with each other.

Popular prosperity is a function of power being reliant on the approval of the masses, and thus will not be achieved in any meaningful way under an authoritarian regime.

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- Baaahb@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Im not disagreeing here. That is one way to interpret “how communism with no capitalist boot on your neck?” Note though, those states dont self identify as communist or really even socialist in most cases, which leads to muddy waters, and does no favors for socialism as a political system… As an economic system its arguable, but not relevant.
  
  I am far from making an argument for auth; it is however important to point out the context in which the most famous example of authy socialism are taken from. I feel that being aware of the strategy of the propagandabeing consumed is important.
  
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  - Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The self-identification of governments is possibly the least reliable way to identify which are closest to being socialist/communist.
    
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    Baaahb@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Lol “them damn commie Scandinavians!” Nah
    
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rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
No answers in this reply, only questions.

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- Baaahb@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  No answers in this reply, just stating that the sky is blue except when its not.
  
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