If they are not charging rent for a year because they are letting an old widow live there, thrn thry are running a charity, they are not acting as a land lord.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I would say your aunt sounds like she found a way to try and make a living. You can certainly take issue with the system but she didn’t make it. She sounds decent and not unlike my parents who bought some apartments in the early 2000s. What apparently people somehow don’t realize, is that when you’re not a corporation or running rental property like a huge dickhead, it’s actually a lot of work to either pay others to do or to do yourself. The situation my parents were in was the bluest of collar jobs.
My mom cleaning toilets and filthy refrigerators, my dad dropping everything or getting out of bed to go fix someone’s heat. This image that apparently 80% of commenters here have that they’re just laying back collecting easy money couldn’t have been further from the truth. They were working their ass off to make any money because they couldn’t afford to hire most tasks.
They rented to people for under the market rate, they let old people stay over a year without paying. They drove significant drives to pick up rent checks from weirdos who couldn’t handle mailing payments for some reason. The horror stories of how people abused their kindness and trashed their apartments are endless. SO many difficult tenants, and hundreds of thousands of back breaking hours later, they sold the apartments and made a little money. I will easily retire with more money than they made by writing software from the comfort of my home. Next to my parents’ struggle with this, my life is incredibly easy.
But somehow, to a lot of lemmings, my work is honest and my parents are exploitative leeches who are morally bankrupt for their choice to take all that shit on (btw we have said nothing about the risk of enormous unexpected expenses or things like being sued by a tenant faking an injury and arguing in court it was your fault).
Is your aunt a parasite? sounds like she absolutely isn’t. I’d say anyone willing to read what you wrote here and say she is, is probably an out of touch asshole whose opinion shouldn’t be valued. But that may just be because I have the 20 years of watching my parents struggle to do that job and it wasn’t easy for them except those few elusive weeks a year that somehow no apartments had anything break and no one moved. That entire 20 years they were afraid to even go on vacation because someone might have a water heater stop working or something.
Of course many would say “why wouldn’t they just hire those maintenance items taken care of?!” I mean yeah of course, and I wasn’t privy to their financial details all those years but it always sounded like they were only able to make money because they did most everything themselves. My parents were the ones exploited. By tenants being shitty and taking advantage sometimes, by the sellers, but most of all, by capitalism. They had to trade their lives for money, and nothing about it was easy. Anyone looking at the situation and unable to see that it was hard just honestly has no empathy at all.
This thread was a disappointing read. I have seen the spectrum, and corporate fuckhead landlords are complete scum. Honest, hardworking people who treat their tenants well are NOT, and anyone who tries to erase that nuance just wants to feel superior and probably should seek therapy (even more so than your average person – we all need it).
joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 week ago
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not sure what you want me to say about that. They certainly made a modest profit overall. Like I said, they had cheap rent. People are more complicated than a label.
joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Agree, objection relavance.
Here lets try this. How do we talk about groups? I can say the Catholic church is against capital punishment, and that is true, but i also personally know many Catholics that are for capital punishment.
Can i not honestly say Catholics are against capital punishment?
If I say officially the church is against capital punishment am I reducing the complexity of of the Catholics that are for it?
How can i talk about landlords?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This post presents a specific question. I bore with you people on this. Read the post and my comment and move on. I’m not going to rehash everything 100 times for mental sloths
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It sounds like your parents were less of landlords and more of providing. A normal landlord is absolutely charging enough to cover calling someone out and evicting people who cannot out will not pay.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yes, and I would agree that even most landlords are unsavory at best. What I’m taking issue with are absolutist views that say 'no, without exception, x is true '. It’s just thought-terminating mental laziness and it’s not helpful.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The problem is systemic though. That’s why it’s a general statement. Just like super philanthropic billionaires exist, but we still say there should be no billionaires. You don’t make a movement by adding asterisks.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Take a step back and realize that you just read that story and then compared my parents to billionaires. I could read that very charitably and say you only meant that generalizations are “helpful” for inspiring change, but even that doesn’t sit right…
I’m trying to tell you that I don’t think literally saying “ALL landlords are scum” is helpful. Take or leave but I don’t think there’s an honest way to deny that.