but it’s not recorded when you leave
Uhhh what gives you this idea?
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
There’s a few things here.
The government doesn’t actually know who’s illegal or legal unless they specifically check a physical person. It’s not like they maintain a list of “illegal” people. Your name gets recorded when you enter the country legally, but it’s not recorded when you leave. If you fail to leave, they don’t really know until they find you and match you to the entry. If you entered illegally, there’s no record at all.
Second, You could easily use a fake ID or fake identity to get a cellphone and the carriers wouldn’t give a shit as long as the bill gets paid. It doesn’t even have to be under your name, maybe it’s under your friend’s account.
Third, I’m not sure how prevalent this is, but you don’t need a “cell” phone to have a phone. A lot of poor people just have a device that can connect to WIFI, and make calls through an app or just message.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 weeks ago
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You don’t talk to US customs on your way out via land borders.
If you fly out, there would be a flight record, but most of the other methods don’t get recorded. If you go to Canada, the canadian immigration shares that data with the US, assuming you use the same passport (some people have more than one)
If you go to Mexico though, there’s no record and the Mexican government doesn’t share that info with the US. crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47541 Page 14
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 weeks ago
Ah interesting, I knew it was recorded in Canada and shared, hadn’t realized it wasn’t in Mexico. Other than that, very familiar with the process overall, but my experience has been with flights mostly.
mlg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It depends. Physical borders may only photograph traffic for security purposes, no dedicated exit gate. Usually its the entry country that records your crossing, which they may or may not share with the other country.
I’m pretty sure TSA does record people exiting internationally though because people have been caught leaving after an arrest warrant has been issued, even if they made it past TSA onto the flight and into the air. TSA will know immediately if you checked in or boarded your flight.
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Second, You could easily use a fake ID or fake identity to get a cellphone
You don’t actually need any ID in the US to set up a phone account. You could be anyone.
Prepaid phones don’t need an ID.
ch00f@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Some carriers specifically cater to unbanked people.
When I worked at Radio Shack back in the day, Sprint had a card you could just hand to the cashier with cash. Didn’t even need to speak any English. The card had all your details on it.
Of course they charged a $5 fee per transaction because fuck poor people.