Comment on DC pizza shop faces backlash for congratulating Trump

Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I completely disagree as a Trump voter, I have no problem patronizing a company that has or espouses different political beliefs than mine. I agree it’s kinda weird for a company to put up a political flag like a MAGA flag or a pride flag, but hey, tolerance is a good thing so if I like the product I’ll support the business.

  That said this is a ridiculous overreaction to a business wanting to cater the president. The backlash sort of shows how off the chain some of these Trump haters really are (not that we needed another reminder lol)

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  • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    People on your side are literally advocating hatred of minorities, the reduction of rights for women, and the overthrow of our Democracy. Our two sides are not the same. If your party platform has a different take on education, border security, or the economy…then that’s one thing, but when they are literally trying to removed Public Education to dumb down the average worker, dismantle our social security, and strip the rights of our people how is that “the same”? Why should anyone on the left be “tolerant” to that hatred?

    I’m not trying to attack you, I’m down for a legitimate discussion here, because I’m sure you have passionate reasons for voting the way you did, and I’d like to understand where the disconnect is here…

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    • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Firstly, I’m a Christian above anything else, so I don’t view Conservatives as “my people” or “my side”, but for the sake of discussion here let’s say that I do.

      People on your side are literally advocating hatred of minorities, the reduction of rights for women, and the overthrow of our Democracy.

      This doesn’t mean that the whole movement supports or advocates for these things. There’s no major effort on the right to do any of these things.

      Our two sides are not the same.

      Of course not. What’s the fun in being the same? It’s actually a good thing that there are differences between the left and the right.

      when they are literally trying to removed Public Education to dumb down the average worker

      Are you talking about getting rid of the Department Of Education? Defending their record of educating the American people is a tough road.

      dismantle our social security

      This doesn’t seem likely to happen since Trump wants to keep it around.

      and strip the rights of our people

      There’s no mainstream movement on the right to strip rights from people, unless you would count abortion as a right.

      Why should anyone on the left be “tolerant” to that hatred?

      There’s no hatred on the part of the majority of the right. What you, as many leftists have done (and many of the right do this as well, TBF), have chosen to do is take policy positions personally and perceive them as indicators of hate, regardless of whether or not they’re motivated by hate at all.

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      • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It’s hard to do this in a phone, and I haven’t really had time to properly respond, but here it goes.

        This doesn’t mean that the whole movement supports or advocates for these things. There’s no major effort on the right to do any of these things.

        There’s been no push back from your party leaders on these issues. You have a loud portion of your group screaming these things. Omission of acceptance doesn’t mean it isn’t implied. If there was a sizable opposition or vocal portion of conservatives stating that they don’t support these things, that would be one thing…but there isn’t.

        Are you talking about getting rid of the Department Of Education? Defending their record of educating the American people is a tough road.

        The Department has played a vital role in supporting public education nationwide. It has narrowed the gap between students of other ethnicities, and has provided beneficial assistance to low-income areas in order to provide many of these students with ways to make it into higher education. It makes sure that schools adhere to Title IX, and helps to enforce students rights within schools.

        By getting rid of the DOE without a plan to support public schools, means we’re leaving significant portions of our populace without the means to access affordable education. Sure, you can get into a voucher program, but it’s quite obvious that this is just a means to funnel taxpayer money into private institutions. What happens if/when there are no more public schools? If they remove that voucher program, where are low-income students going to go?

        This doesn’t seem likely to happen since Trump wants to keep it From what I understand, he’s been wanting to get rid of it and the ACA since 2016. It’s a socialized support system, and it hits all the markers of things that Trump and his cronies have been wanting to get rid of for years. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t try to take a few shots at it.

        There’s no mainstream movement on the right to strip rights from people, unless you would count abortion as a right.

        Ending birthright citizenships, ending DEI initiatives, elimination and suppression of unions and workers rights, rollback of child protection laws in the workplace. Those are all mainstream conservative movements. Getting rid of contraceptives and banning abortion is essentially forcing Christian morality upon everyone else.

        It’s clear that the right wants an uneducated workforce that they can abuse, underpay, and take advantage of, and the best way to do that is make education the enemy and let them revel in their ignorance. It’s class warfare, and I’m worried that most people on the right are unaware of it.

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