Comment on Nitrous oxide: Laughing gas to be illegal by end of year

• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s in no way unfeasible - and the deposits end up paying for the ongoing operation of the system.

  Which is better, addressing the littering problem directly, or criminalising and litigating against a bunch of people with a law that can’t be enforced if they have a can of cream on them?

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  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The deposit is just a deposit, it doesn’t pay for anything. Are you sure you understand how the deposit in this case works? You pay for something and you get that back when you return the item.

    Maybe you should look into something like the Finnish bottle deposit scheme. It’s great but those take quite some time and effort to set up and get running properly.

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not everyone returns and collects the deposit back, these deposits end up funding the operations.

      If the Finnish scheme is anything like the German scheme, that’s what I was thinking of. Although it doesn’t need to be quite so widespread with machines inside every supermarket.

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      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They’ll have to wait with just taking the deposit money since for quite a long time you wouldn’t know if they’re returning it or not. And if it’s anything like other systems, you can return it to different place than the one you paid for, which requires moving money around and whatnot. And there’s the issue of getting them from the stores to be recycled and overall upkeep and governance of the system and so on.

        The systems are a lot more complex than one might think at first.

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