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commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours agoi didn’t say there is anything wrong with it. and if their plan (increased welfare standards) leads to that, i would think you would support it.
Comment on Honey
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours agoi didn’t say there is anything wrong with it. and if their plan (increased welfare standards) leads to that, i would think you would support it.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Well, one plan involves convincing western politicians and the companies that pay for them, to self regulate. The other involves personal choice.
So I guess I chose the easy one.
Also vegans do participate in animal activism of course. They just won’t argue for better ways to slaughter animals.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
but if it’s ineffective, then it is no better.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Well, your graph could just as easily support my position as it could go against it.
I see a line that could be higher if not for the personal choice of a collective of vegans, vegetarians, and generally healthier people.
You see proof vegans aren’t making a difference. Where’s your proof that the line is unaffected by vegans? Do you have anything else that proves being vegan is an effort in futility?
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
no, it’ can’t. this is an unscientific claim.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
i’ve never said that. i think if you want to avoid animal products, then doing so is its own reward. but if you want to decrease animal slaughter, it’s ineffective.
i suggest that you go where animals are being slaughtered and stop it.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
you can’t prove a counterfactual. but it is a fact that vegans exist, and the chart continues to rise.