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sirblastalot@ttrpg.network â¨2⊠â¨months⊠agoThe question that raises from a process improvement perspective then is âwere the first 3 rounds really effective tests?â Perhaps a better solution is not more interviews, but more focused interviews conducted by the people that actually have the knowledge and power to make the decision. (And if the knowledge and the power are divided among multiple people, another great improvement would be empowering the people with the knowledge.)
model_tar_gz@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Google has done way more research on this topic than both you and I collectively and they settled in on 4 interviews being the sweet spot to get enough signal to be 86% confident, while not wasting any more of anyoneâs time than needed chasing after single-point confidence improvements. In my experience, I agree with this. Iâve been through 6-round and 3-round (both to offer). Even as a candidate I guess I feel like i wanted that fourth round. Kinda hard to tell what a company culture is from just three meets. And after six rounds I was just freaking exhausted and didnât really have a high opinion of that company-they couldnât seem to figure out a clear mission/vision for their product and I thought their overly complicated and drawn-out interview process was a reflection of that.
Google goes into more depth as to why the three-tech + 1 behavioral/cultural model works for them. They call it a work-sample test.
Both articles linked are well worth the time to read. Hiring is a messy and inconvenient process for both companies and employees.
sirblastalot@ttrpg.network â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
That strikes me as highly reflective of googleâs position of power; from the employerâs perspective, the point where the diminishing returns are no longer worth it is related to the point where theyâre losing too many applicants from interview exhaustion. If youâre not google, not offering the kind of pay and such that google does, your break-even point is likely much sooner.
Additionally, from the workerâs perspective, the only-3-interviews rule is an assertion of our power. And, as an added plus, if enough people adhere to it, it will shift that break-even point even for places like Google, and resist the shifting of that burden onto unpaid workers.
model_tar_gz@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
The article I posted pointed out that theyâre trying to not waste the candidateâs time, as well. They used to do 12 fucking rounds of interviewsâand because itâs Google, people tolerated that crap. One of my best friends is an old-school Googler that got in through that gauntlet.
Keep that in mind when you claim itâs an employerâs power playâin this case, itâs really not. More than four interviews, twelve, sure I can believe that. You should read about what some of the elite tier government special ops groups go through.
At this point weâre quibbling over a delta of one interviewâI think weâre probably pretty close, or close enough to say âagree to disagree on the rest.â
Cheers.