to me it's as with politics, I am either ok with anarchy or monarchy, so to speak, as Tolkien expressed

so either I run or join a Christian forum that bans advocacy of degeneracy, so the mods are somewhat responsible for what is allowed to be posted, or we tolerate legal degeneracy and morally consider the burden for posting to be on the poster, which is like a kind of anarchy.

I also like the concept of "freer speech" rather than free speech. Which is to say on here we have "freer" speech that reddit, like can talk about covid issues. even if there are other restrictions on speech, it is still more free.