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• BURN@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Except we did. You just ignored everything that doesn’t fit the pinhole of your worldview.

  Science does not have alternatives. Science describes the natural order of the world in quantifiable, repeatable ways.

  Religion, tradition, consensus and all your other bullshit all rely on human information, which are not reliable sources of truth. The only way to prove something is to observe, document and then have others verify, which is also known as the scientific process.

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  • froghorse@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Science is a method for getting knowledge. We have other methods for getting knowledge too. All have their pros and cons.

    An advantage of science is that it delivers knowledge of high quality.

    An advantage of authority is that it is convenient.

    An advantage of personal experience is that it is not limited to abstraction.

    There are other advantages, no doubt. And other methods.

    The subject under discussion is called Epistemology. The philosophy of knowledge.

    It isn’t as scary as it sounds.

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    • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Literally none of that has to do with science. None have pros.

      Science is based in objective fact. Not “high quality knowledge”.

      Who the fuck cares if it’s convenient? That doesn’t mean it’s right.

      Again, who cares if it’s abstracted? Personal experience is incredibly unreliable and no true conclusions can be made based on it.

      You’re conflating science with knowledge, which is not true. Science is the presentation of knowledge based on objective fact in the world around us that is also backed up by other scientists conducting the same experimentation process to obtain the same results. Science is a representation of the world around us in a verifiable way.

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