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Comment on CEO of Telegram messaging app arrested in France, say French media

SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

SimpleX is not as good as other offerings yet, it is very lacking in features and frustrating to use for the few it does have.

Matrix has bad encryption: soatok.blog/…/security-issues-in-matrixs-olm-libr…

XMPP also has not very useful encryption (though not bad imo, it’s just not user friendly nor on all the time or in every client): soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against-xmppomemo/

Briar isn’t there yet on every device, it doesn’t have feature parity on all devices/OSs and can’t be used on all devices/OS.

Signal is the only one really worth considering at the moment in my opinion for most users, good features, and for actually proven encryption.

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AsudoxDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I actually think that too. People just think that providing their phone numbers makes them less private when privacy does not mean anonymity.

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- SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah. Phone numbers are less of an issue now what with usernames and with certain options chosen no one can find you by phone number on Signal.
  
  I do agree with them to some degree that tying accounts to phone numbers should be removed or at least optional, but it’s less of an issue now.
  
  I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking privacy means “the maxmimum amount of privacy at all times” and whilst that’s understandable it’s not a thing that is likely in this current world nor does everyone need it, which is why people can and should be doing accurate threat modelling for themselves, which most don’t.
  
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- uis@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  People just think that providing their phone numbers makes them less private when privacy does not mean anonymity.
  
  Yeah, people just think that providing their phone numbers makes local police able to easily find them and insert soldering iron into their rectum when privacy does not mean that that police will not easily find you for what you said on the internets. Wait, what?
  
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  - SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Okay, I’ll bite. But considering Signal has no data and very little metadata to give people, what exactly is the problem? What evidence would they have to arrest people on?
    
    Especially now that people don’t have to share phone numbers to add a contact and can stop other from being able to do so.
    
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    uis@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    What evidence would they have to arrest people on?
    
    Message in big group chat and phone number. Message can for example say that war is bad, and as result you will be charhed with “discreditation of army”.
    
    Especially now that people don’t have to share phone numbers to add a contact
    
    Phone number that can only be obtained after showing passport.
    
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