@Cătă
To be fair, ActivityPub is off by default because it makes nomadic identity more difficult on the level that Zot6 offers. And it's off by default at channel level only whereas it's on by default at hub level.
With "anything but straight-foward", I mean it isn't like on (streams) where you have an ActivityPub on/off switch in the settings which is usually even on when you first discover it.
Instead, ActivityPub is an add-on, an "app" that has to be "installed". But newbies don't expect Hubzilla to have add-ons at all because Twitter has none, and Mastodon has none. And they certainly wouldn't expect ActivityPub, of all things, to be an add-on and off by default. In fact, most probably join Hubzilla in the belief that it is based on ActivityPub like "everything else" in the Fediverse.
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c) ActivityPub is off by default, not to mention d) how to turn it on which is anything but straight-forward.
Holly cow. I guess I'll stay on Friendica for the foreseeable future :D
To be fair, ActivityPub is off by default because it makes nomadic identity more difficult on the level that Zot6 offers. And it's off by default at channel level only whereas it's on by default at hub level.
With "anything but straight-foward", I mean it isn't like on (streams) where you have an ActivityPub on/off switch in the settings which is usually even on when you first discover it.
Instead, ActivityPub is an add-on, an "app" that has to be "installed". But newbies don't expect Hubzilla to have add-ons at all because Twitter has none, and Mastodon has none. And they certainly wouldn't expect ActivityPub, of all things, to be an add-on and off by default. In fact, most probably join Hubzilla in the belief that it is based on ActivityPub like "everything else" in the Fediverse.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #ActivityPub #NomadicIdentity
petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 months ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu 3 months ago
As the user, you have it under "Available apps", but you have to activate (= "install") it.
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petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 months ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu 3 months ago
Basically, you "install" the "app" on your channel. It integrates the functionality of the "app" into your channel instead of just turning it on, and it adds or makes it possible to add links to the "app" to the navigation bar and/or the burger menu.
I'm not a Hubzilla dev. But it could be a different case of how add-ons work. I guess add-ons on Friendica are integrated into your account right away, you just turn them on and off, whereas on Hubzilla, "installing" an "app" does not turn the existing functionality in your channel on, but it builds the functionality into your channel in the first place. Especially PubCrawl is something that digs deeply into how your channel works, especially how nomadic identity works.
Don't forget that Hubzilla is not Friendica with nomadic identity and wikis and a different protocol. When Mike turned Friendica into Red, he re-wrote the entire backend from scratch.
This wording may actually be as old as Red. Trying to have it changed now would be like complaining that identities plus content are named "channels" on Hubzilla (and everything that has come after Hubzilla) because the term "channels" is being used in different contexts by other projects nowadays. It'd be like complaining that Hubzilla, like Friendica before it, has its own term for a server instance instead of officially calling it an "instance" or a "server".
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Regez@troet.cafe 3 months ago
@jupiter_rowland
I listen to your conversation with interest because I have very little technical background...
Are the add-ons more complicated to "install" than in Firefox? And what about Hubzilla's translation functions or German-language communities?
@petrescatraian
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu 3 months ago
No, because "install" means "switch on" rather than "download to your server".
It doesn't have any.
There are no dedicated Hubzilla communities. You simply connect with other German-speaking users, no matter whether they're on Hubzilla or Mastodon or Firefish or Friendica or wherever.
Put "German" as a keyword/tag into your profile (there's a dedicated profile field for that, by the way), and you'll be suggested other German users.
As for German instances, the two biggest hubs are German, and I think most of the top five hubs are German.
As for Hubzilla forums, I only know six:
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