Comment on Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
TC_209@hexbear.net 1 month agoFrom a Marxist perspective, all class-based societies are governed by dictatorships:
A dictatorship is the political dominance of one group of people over others. In a class society, a dictatorship usually favors the interest of certain classes over the others.
Right now, we live in the Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie
The bourgeoisie is the ruling class in capitalist society; it owns the means of production and has a decisive influence on production. It lives off of surplus value which it obtains by exploiting the labour power of the proletariat.
MrSaturn@startrek.website 1 month ago
I’m not a Marxist so don’t agree
buckykat@hexbear.net 1 month ago
You literally just don’t know what you’re talking about
MrSaturn@startrek.website 1 month ago
Because I’m not a Marxist? Um ok lol
buckykat@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Well yes, but more broadly because you keep using words without knowing what they mean
TC_209@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Given this thread is about whether or not the Federation is a communist or socialist society, Marxist definitions are the most useful, eh? Furthermore, I’d argue that the term Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie very accurately describes American (I’m an American) society, and does so regardless of one’s personal beliefs.
MrSaturn@startrek.website 1 month ago
Well there are non Marxist socialist/communist models and systems but I take your point. I was just answering you because you responded to why I’m not a communist, that’s all
TC_209@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Again, perfectly fair. Before I was a communist, I rejected Marxist concepts as well. I’ve spent over two decades reading and listening to arguments for and against all sort of political, social and economic ideas. I’ve identified with centrism, liberalism, libertarianism, social democracy and other ideologies. Today, I consider myself to be a Marxist/socialist/communist not because it’s just the latest thing I’ve hit upon, but because it’s what’s made the most sense to me. When I use Marxist words and ideas, I don’t do so because I’m a Marxist; I’m a Marxist because those words and ideas have helped me to make the most sense of the world. And I’m certainly not demanding, or even asking, you do become a Marxist, I’m just asking you to consider what makes the most sense.
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