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Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

It’s legal precedent. The decisions made in that way become law, and that ruling has been used several times since, and it could be used again, to convict someone in the exact manner I described.

It’s just an example, anyways. The point of it was to make you think about how arbitrary enforcement of the law could be used to oppress an individual who had done nothing wrong.

I am far more interested in having you address my actual argument itself, as a whole. I’m very open to changing my perspective if you can explain why using a handheld phone while stuck in a traffic jam is more dangerous than using a phone handsfree while driving.

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Arrakis@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

It’s legal precedent

When there is suspicion of drink driving. Editorialising facts serves nothing other than to make your statements seem unreliable.

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- Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  No, that’s not correct. It’s entirely about determining when you are, or not, driving. That’s why the course went to court. This legal case establishes that “driving” can include when you’ve stopped and gotten out of the car, assuming that you intend to continue your journey.
  
  See my previous comment: are you going to actually answer my question? Whether or not you think my statements are unreliable doesn’t matter.
  
  You answer that simple question without having to rely on anything I have stated.
  
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  - Arrakis@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    It’s entirely about determining when you are, or not, driving. That’s why the course went to the House of Lords for a determination. This precedent establishes that “driving” can include when you’ve stopped and gotten out of the car, assuming that you intend to continue your journey
    
    That’s not what the House decided at all. If you’re going to misquote and misconstrue law and disregard the actual decision points there isn’t really much merit for anyone else to discuss it with you. Like I said before, maybe you should actually read the case law and decisions lest people think you’re deliberately perpetuating falsehoods and not simply missundertanding.
    
    See my previous comment: are you going to actually answer my question? Whether or not you think my statements are unreliable doesn’t matter.
    
    You didn’t ask me a question? I’ve read through all your replies to me and none contain a question, are you confusing me with another commenter maybe?
    
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    Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Happy to restate the question:
    
    Is using a handheld phone while stopped and stuck in traffic more dangerous than using a phone handsfree while driving at 60 miles an hour?
    
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C4d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I think you got me confused with another commenter. Also I believe I’ve already answered your question (comment with RoSPA in it).

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- Blake@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Sorry, at this point I have no way of knowing who has written what, because the “Context” link is broken so I can’t tell what any comment is in response to.
  
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