So here’s my thoughts on it. Hip-Hop has had a profound effect across modern culture and that has caused aspects of the sound to bleed into other cultures. When you look at bands like RATM, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, you could make the argument that they wouldn’t exist without Hip-Hop, but that doesn’t make them Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is an incredibly welcoming, culture, which is why there’s so many culture vultures like Post Malone, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, Pink, Childish Gambino and even Eminem. There’s this inherent idea that it’s okay to use Hip-Hop to get your big break and then you can just say bye and move on to make whatever your true passion is. Or in the case of Eminem, that you’re free to act like a gatekeeper all while trying to recycle the same sound with the same concepts and yet be silent whenever the community needs you. Like if Eminem had been as vocal about artists getting paid properly as Taylor Swift is, a lot of young artists would be in a better position. To mention Flint and the various social issues. But I digress. With Hip-Hop, we like to see people succeed and we love to try different things, but there’s some fundamental things that make something Hip-Hop and while that’s debated, you’ll find that the world is agreed, including the members of RATM, that they’re not a Hip-Hop band.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thanks for the reply.
It seems RATM has been talked about in other hip-hop communities as well.
I went through the Reddit museum to see what they discussed.
Really insightful and thoughtful conversations were had; I found one a decade ago and another half a decade ago, and there are many more.
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 8 months ago
So here’s my thoughts on it. Hip-Hop has had a profound effect across modern culture and that has caused aspects of the sound to bleed into other cultures. When you look at bands like RATM, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, you could make the argument that they wouldn’t exist without Hip-Hop, but that doesn’t make them Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is an incredibly welcoming, culture, which is why there’s so many culture vultures like Post Malone, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, Pink, Childish Gambino and even Eminem. There’s this inherent idea that it’s okay to use Hip-Hop to get your big break and then you can just say bye and move on to make whatever your true passion is. Or in the case of Eminem, that you’re free to act like a gatekeeper all while trying to recycle the same sound with the same concepts and yet be silent whenever the community needs you. Like if Eminem had been as vocal about artists getting paid properly as Taylor Swift is, a lot of young artists would be in a better position. To mention Flint and the various social issues. But I digress. With Hip-Hop, we like to see people succeed and we love to try different things, but there’s some fundamental things that make something Hip-Hop and while that’s debated, you’ll find that the world is agreed, including the members of RATM, that they’re not a Hip-Hop band.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wow, thanks for taking the time to write that up!
It seems I disagree with the world and RATM; I see them as hip-hop as well as rock.
Thanks for letting me know, though!
I will try to remember not to post here just due to their music having a rap tag, hahaha.