Ah.... you are being sarcastic. Took me way too long to realise, lol
What blows my mind is that the US lost to China and Vietnam, and China lost to Vietnam as well.....
Does that make Vietnam the real #1 superpower then ?
Ah.... you are being sarcastic. Took me way too long to realise, lol
What blows my mind is that the US lost to China and Vietnam, and China lost to Vietnam as well.....
Does that make Vietnam the real #1 superpower then ?
mayonesa@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
No, I am almost never sarcastic and if so, usually do it badly.
The point is not that China is hard to invade.
It's that no one wants to confront an enemy that is 100x their size, and also disciplined to the point of near-suicidal extremity. Like the Mongols: they brought in a large army at a time when most civilizations were small. (The Great Khan's military prowess was probably a complete lie; he simply avoided fighting the way others did, which gave him an advantage).
I am not sure that the US lost in Vietnam; it achieved its aims, which was to slow Chinese expansion.
But the point taken from it was that to beat the Asiatics, whether Mongols or modern types like the Chinese, you have to fight with raw numbers. They charge in suicidal waves. It is how they have always won: lowest common denominator, but turned up to 11.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I agree. But its not only Asians that behave like this. When was the last time a country conquered another 'permanently' ?
US lost Afg after 20 years, USSR lost countries it conquered after 50 years, British conquered India for 200 years before losing. Rome lost all the countries it conquered after 1000 years. Never in human history has a faraway country been conquered permanently. Its human nature.
Humans are tribal. Our local govt represents our culture and social values, not faraway elite rulers. That's why Brexit, American revolution and loss in Afghanistan happened. Afghanistanis would rather have local Taliban tribal leaders than infidel West which forces feminism, gay, transsexual and other disgusting fetishes on a very traditional society. Taliban has way more local support than USA.
USA lost Vietnam horrifically. Nothing is worth killing millions. Nobody won in Vietnam, except death.
mayonesa@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
US pulled out of Afghanistan because they were unwilling to wage a Roman-style war, i.e. relocating civilians.
In my view, Vietnam was a strategic win that stopped Communist expansion and forced a change in tactics. No one cares about a few million dead Communists.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
US pulled out of Afghanistan, because it failed to win hearts and minds after spending Trillions on pushing feminism and other woke agendas as part of 'Nation building'. As they pulled out, all the 'feminist' mayors and ministers ran like the corrupt military.
Outside of the capital Taliban had grassroots support the US didn't. After WWII, US had grassroots support in Europe, that's why it didn't get kicked out.
Killing innocent people has consequences. Survivors don't forget. The US kills muslims in ME ? 9/11. Iraq war 2003 ? ISIS in 2013.
Nobody supports US sanctions outside of EU. To the rest of the World, there isn't much difference between US and China. Both are hated.