You are technically correct in that my language was imprecise and I haven’t made the clearest, most well organized, argument here. Probably because this exchange has been ongoing over a couple days.
Regardless, if one side was like “That’s really annoying to me, could you not please?” responding with “womp womp” is extremely rude and selfish.
On top of that, fireworks give people “genuine” problems on top of simply not liking it
In summary: Fireworks upset people for reasons ranging from “I just don’t like loud noises” all the way through “they’re basically torture for my dog”. When people are like, “I don’t care I’m gonna do it anyway,” that’s garbage behavior.
Regardless, if one side was like “That’s really annoying to me, could you not please?” responding with “womp womp” is extremely rude and selfish.
It is narcissistic of me to assume something annoying me should influence the behavior of strangers, and get them to stop doing something. A lot of things annoy me, and I’m all for criticizing and complaining about them(I do that a lot)- but someone not caring about my complaints and continuing to do what they enjoy is their right, and they aren’t a bad person for not caring that it annoys me.
I’m sensitive to smells, we all recognize how unreasonable it would be for me to demand my neighbors don’t smoke weed because it bothers me at home, or I can smell cigarettes on the bus. Similarly, yes demanding people stop doing something they enjoy with their family because you have to wear headphones for a couple hours once or twice a year is something that I want to say “Womp womp” to
but someone not caring about my complaints and continuing to do what they enjoy is their right, and they aren’t a bad person for not caring that it annoys me.
I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree. To use your example, if my neighbor was smoking in a place that it was stinking up my bedroom, and I asked them to stop doing it there, and they were like “nah I like it here” I’d consider them a huge asshole. Just do it over there not by my bedroom or something.
One confounding issue here is that fireworks affect a pretty big area. The whole neighborhood is probably going to hear them.
I don’t know anything about you so this might not land, but I wonder if there’s an urban rural divide on this. Folks that live in a more dense area might on average be more considerate of their neighbors. I’ve known people who live out in the woods that are big on “I do what I want on my property!” Though plenty of people everywhere are assholes, so who knows.
aidan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s not as simple as not liking it, that’s having a specific complaint. Which wasn’t what was said
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 months ago
You are technically correct in that my language was imprecise and I haven’t made the clearest, most well organized, argument here. Probably because this exchange has been ongoing over a couple days.
Regardless, if one side was like “That’s really annoying to me, could you not please?” responding with “womp womp” is extremely rude and selfish.
On top of that, fireworks give people “genuine” problems on top of simply not liking it
In summary: Fireworks upset people for reasons ranging from “I just don’t like loud noises” all the way through “they’re basically torture for my dog”. When people are like, “I don’t care I’m gonna do it anyway,” that’s garbage behavior.
aidan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It is narcissistic of me to assume something annoying me should influence the behavior of strangers, and get them to stop doing something. A lot of things annoy me, and I’m all for criticizing and complaining about them(I do that a lot)- but someone not caring about my complaints and continuing to do what they enjoy is their right, and they aren’t a bad person for not caring that it annoys me.
I’m sensitive to smells, we all recognize how unreasonable it would be for me to demand my neighbors don’t smoke weed because it bothers me at home, or I can smell cigarettes on the bus. Similarly, yes demanding people stop doing something they enjoy with their family because you have to wear headphones for a couple hours once or twice a year is something that I want to say “Womp womp” to
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 months ago
I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree. To use your example, if my neighbor was smoking in a place that it was stinking up my bedroom, and I asked them to stop doing it there, and they were like “nah I like it here” I’d consider them a huge asshole. Just do it over there not by my bedroom or something.
One confounding issue here is that fireworks affect a pretty big area. The whole neighborhood is probably going to hear them.
I don’t know anything about you so this might not land, but I wonder if there’s an urban rural divide on this. Folks that live in a more dense area might on average be more considerate of their neighbors. I’ve known people who live out in the woods that are big on “I do what I want on my property!” Though plenty of people everywhere are assholes, so who knows.