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• cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  There’s some appliance breakdown vids (idk if Rossman is one of them) but the gist is Samsung and LG like to put cheap plastic parts in high wear locations which inevitably fail.

  Fridges are dead simple appliances. A compressor and evaporator coils with a temperature sensor. There’s absolutely no reason they shouldn’t outlast you and everyone you love.

  It’s insane these “premium” brands are built to fall like they do.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Real premium brands do last, but not everyone wants to pay 10k for a fridge

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    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I mean, having to replace a fridge every few years because it constantly breaks in a way that’s uneconomical to repair will cost you a lot more in the long run.

      That’s the thing, it’s more expensive being poor.

      You’d be better off getting a 2nd hand quality brand from a wealthy suburb when they remodel their kitchen every 5ish years or so.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Sure it costs more in the long run, but the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck, do you think they want to go and pay 25k for a full set of appliances just so they’ll save money over 30 years when they can barely afford to pay for their basic needs?

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    • kalleboo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Checking what a fridge cost you in 1980 in an old Sears catalog, you’d be paying $4000 today accounting for inflation.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        But people compare their reliability to 1000$ fridges today

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    • cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      An insulated box with a decent compressor does not cost 10k. Making a compressor that fails after 2 years is actually hard to do, something both LG and Samsung spent time and money to achieve.

      Consider, for example, that nearly every car manufactured with an AC. Which is exactly the same tech as a fridge. Yet you rarely end up needing to replace the compressor on your car. You might need to recharge it or clean it, but not replace the compressor. 10k of your car price isn’t the HVAC.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Just saying, that’s the price for premium brands like Sub Zero, but they have their reputation and it’s very very good

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Premium brands are not industrial brands. Goal of premium brands is to be as expensive as possible.

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      • toddestan@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That’s the problem. A lot of those high-end, expensive appliances are built just as shitty as the low-end, basic models. The difference is just some bells and whistles and a higher price tag.

        I have no problem paying extra for a higher quality, better built appliance. But the challenge is differentiating those from the low quality, built as cheaply as possible appliances that have just been marked up with a premium price tag.

        At least when I buy the cheap, shitty model, I get what I paid for.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Sub Zero, Thermador… Looks industrial to you?

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  • DampCanary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    He’s predominately Apple product repair guy, but he’s also right to repair advocate.

    And he likes to rant about brands that are generally against consumer rights (and common sense).

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• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I’ve got no idea who that is so no, I wasn’t knowingly quoting them

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  • DampCanary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    he’s involved in right to repair and has youtube channel where hem mostly talks about how brands try to avoid questions on repairability and sustainability

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