Comment on ABC article alleges caucus concern over Fatima Payma being "guided by god". Smells of a character assassination to me.

biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Depending on what you mean that might be naïve. As it stands something like half of us are religious and many people who are religious would say it significantly shapes their views on things.

  It’s not even clear where the boundaries between religious and nonreligious views are sometimes.

  I think it’s reasonable to ask for a politics that’s reasonable, earnest, compassionate, and understanding. I think it’s also true that fundamentalism can be awful and used to make frothing bigotry seem more reasonable than it is.

  But idk, if someone says “a fundamental creed of some system I believe in is non violence and helping the weak, and I meditated on that in my appropriate cultural building last night, so I will be voting against the ‘kill the target minority’ bill proposed” is that such a bad or unreasonable thing?

  I think there’s some nuance, and it doesn’t seem that much more silly than standing before an ocean storm, feeling the sublime, and that moment triggering a reduction in ego or whatever.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yeah nah. My grandmother was religious as fuck and she never said shit like “it’s in gods hands” she just made a decision and if questioned said “Because it’s the right thing to do you bloody drongo”

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Really? I got kicked out of Christian Education in highschool for eating a bible and I’ve said “It’s in God’s hand’s now”. Admittedly as a humourous way to sum up “I’ve done what I can, now we see how it shaked out” but all the same.

      It’s just an idiom. No doubt sometimes people literally mean it as handing off responsibility to a supernatural, interventionist entity but I would not assume that without seeing evidence someone was a fundie.

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