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coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You’re coming up with a sarcastic exaggeration (barrels and glasses), followed by “serious question”. So which is it now?

Anyway. How about refillable cups, travel mugs, returnable bottles? Stop buying bottled water if your tap water is fine. Get a soda maker if you like sparkling water or Spritzer. Clean up after yourselves, return or throw away bottles with the lid on.

And first and foremost: stop buying packaged and bottled sh*t at every possible occasion. Things like single-use / to-go cups or bottles shouldn’t even exist.

We all created the landfills and ocean garbage patches and now we complain about our own stupidity, unable to drink from a bottle with a lid attached to it like we’re toddlers.

If you seriously ask me for an alternative: stop creating waste. Stop complaining about your waste. And stop complaining about regulations that try to limit waste that shouldn’t even be there. Big part of the problem stems from our own laziness and consumerism. Everyone is part of the problem, nobody wants to be a part of the solution. What did you even expect?

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RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I hardly want to reply for your aggressiveness. I don’t see how that’s been called for.

But yes, I was being serious because you explicitly excluded all bottles by “bottled beverages”. So I thought, water can be replaced by tap water (I do that personally because I don’t want carry crates that are unnecessary) but what about beer, for example? I could order kegs (no sarcasm, they start at 5 liters) but can hardly take them with me.

So, by “bottled beverages” you don’t count “returnable bottles”. Apart from that differentiation not being obvious, it didn’t occur to me because in my country almost all sold bottles are returnable, even single-use ones.

Hope that clarifies my question. Maybe next time don’t immediately jump to conclusions and make assumptions about other people’s lifestyle.

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- coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Sorry, it’s aggravating to see people complain about bottle lids and not seeing what the bigger problem behind is.
  
  We created this mess and now the least bad thing in this literal pile of garbage gets labelled ‘mildly infuriating’.
  
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cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Your solution to people wanting to buy some specific drinks is “don’t buy the thing you want, buy something else”. Hardly an answer.

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- coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why is it “hardly an answer”?
  
  Getting everything you want at any time is part of the reason why the planet’s dying. Consumerism is not sustainable. Just one example: one wants a coffee and isn’t at home. Solution today: get a single-use plasticcy paper cup of coffee with an optional packaged portion of sweetener and / or cream, a plastic stirring thingy, and a plastic lid. All that goes to waste because people were led to believe that a “paper” cup is good for the environment. It isn’t.
  
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