AFAIK, these tethered caps are mostly an EU thing (and at the very least are not widely used in my area of the US) and a lot of European countries are less knife-friendly than the US.
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HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Do people not carry pocket knives anymore? This seems like a non problem to me. I can cut this off in a second or two.
Fondots@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Aux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You should remember that the gun death rate in the US is only three times lower than in Ukraine during an active war. US is a fucking war zone!
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
How did you get to guns when I asked about pocket knives?
Fondots@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not really relevant to the comment you replied to and only tangentially related to some other comments in this thread. We’re talking about knives and soda caps here.
breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 months ago
less knife friendly
Most places are advanced enough to not require their citizens to carry weaponry.
needing to always be armed is a uniquely american problem
Fondots@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot of us don’t think of our knives as weapons, they’re tools.
It’s rare that I don’t carry a knife, and using it in self defense is the furthest thing from my mind every day when I put it in my pocket. I use it for things like opening packages, cutting string, sharpening pencils, use various other tools on the knife like screwdrivers, pliers, awls, I have a lot of outdoor hobbies like camping, hiking, fishing, and knives are kind of indispensable for those pursuits.
If I’m ever in a situation where I absolutely need to defend myself, and I don’t really foresee that ever being necessary, I’m probably not even going to think of using my knife in self defense, I don’t think of it as a weapon anymore than I think of my wallet being a weapon, it’s just something that lives in my pocket that I frequently need to use.
And knives make a shitty weapon, if you’re close enough to stab someone, you’re close enough to get punched in the face, or for your assailant to wrestle it out of your hands and stab you with it. You’d be better swinging around pretty much any larger object within arms reach to create some space. They say about knife fights that the loser dies in the street, the winner dies in the ambulance.
The knives I tend to carry especially aren’t good weapons, most need 2 hands to open, aren’t really designed ergonomically as fighting knives, most are fairly small so I’d have to get really lucky to hit anything vital and would probably just piss them off more and not stop the attack quickly, some of them don’t even have a pointy blade so not good for stabbing (I actually make it a point to choose less threatening looking knives for my EDC needs) some of them don’t lock open so they’d just as like close on my fingers as cause any harm to my assailant, and some of them actually lock in the closed position so definitely not good for a weapon.
I’m not saying that everyone who carries a knife has the same mindset. Lots of people do carry them as weapons, those people are idiots. And not everyone puts the same thought into the knives they carry and just get something that looks cool whether or not it’s functional for their needs.
I also don’t carry anything for self defense regularly and don’t own a gun (not opposed to gun ownership in general, but my thoughts on that are part whole ‘nother debate,) in general if I feel like I need to be prepared to defend myself if I go somewhere, I just don’t go there. There’s a bit of privilege to that, since I live in a safe area and can make that call, not everyone is lucky enough to live somewhere they can feel safe. The only exception is the pepper spray I keep with my dogs leash, since my wife or I often end up walking her alone at night, and that’s more of a precaution against loose dogs, coyotes, etc. than against people.
There’s a lot to say about Americans’ love of violence and weapons and the sort of mindset we have about self defense, and overall I tend to think that a lot of my country is absolutely insane when it comes to those matters. That said, I also think people who look at the little swiss army type knives, or Leatherman multitools I tend to carry and see a terrifying deadly weapon have their own issues to work out too.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Not American, and a pocket knife makes a terrible weapon. You watch to many movies.
barsoap@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I think that’s mostly UK and France. As in: I have an Opinel lying around here, perfectly legal to carry in any situation as long as it’s not a protest or such, it’s a French knife, lots of tradition behind it… and it’s illegal in France.
Rules in Germany are quite simple: If the blade is longer than IIRC 14cm (palm of your hand), or it is a locking blade that’s designed to be opened with one hand, you need a good reason to carry it. Like, walking on the street towards the forest with an axe over your shoulder is fine because you have a proper reason, into a mall, not so much. Butterflies and some other one-handed opening mechanisms popular with notorious people are outlawed. Everything else you can EDC.
deezbutts@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Lol my brother that does not sound simple
Fondots@lemmy.world 2 months ago
His formatting leaves a bit to be desired, but that basically boils down to
- Knives with certain features like a double edge, a handguard, butterfly knives and certain other one-handed opening mechanisms (I assume switchblades, maybe assisted openers, possibly gravity and flick knives) are weapons and can be owned but generally not carried
Otherwise…
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Knives (and I assume this applies to other bladed tools as well since he mentioned an axe)with a blade length of less than about 5.5 inches are ok to carry for no particular reason, as long as either the blade doesn’t lock or it needs two hands to open it (from how he wrote it sounds to me like one or the other of those features is ok, but not both)
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You can carry a bigger knife if you have a good reason that you need one, like if you’re going campings/hunting, or clearing brush with a machete (and from how he phrased it sounds like you could also carry a one-handed locking knife with a good reason)
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You get carded to prove you’re an adult if you want to buy a sword (I assume knives as well)
Which is pretty straightforward, and actually similar to a lot of laws in the states (looser than some states I believe, and stricter than others)
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 2 months ago
You don’t need a knife for that.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
No, but it’s a good tool that works in the situation.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Could you explain the relevance? I asked why people don’t carry a tool for a problem they are bitching about. Phones have nothing to do with a tethered cap.