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• Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And teaching kids about guns will not solve the serious gun problems in America.

  Ok but it’s still a pretty obviously good idea. Will definitely save lives. Children’s lives.

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  • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Teaching kids to use guns doesn’t save kids’ lives. If you want to teach em to stay away from guns, that they’re deadly, they shouldn’t touch it and should tell an adult right away go ahead.

    Teaching kids to use guns in the name of gun safety is like saying if you don’t teach a kid to drive what’s to stop them from getting hit by a car.

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    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you want to teach em to stay away from guns, that they’re deadly, they shouldn’t touch it and should tell an adult right away go ahead.

      That IS gun safety education.

      Also the first rule of gun safety: a gun is ALWAYS LOADED

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      • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Stop for one second, re read the conversation, and the link. I’m criticizing teaching 7 year old kids to shoot, not criticizing teaching actual gun safety. That was a straw man you set up to knock down.

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• Arbiter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Assuming well monitored by adults letting kids shoot isn’t that big of a deal.

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• GiveMemes@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Source for preschoolers in “the heroes program”?

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  • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Already in the comment, click the links.

    www.safekidsinc.com/hero-program-overview

    Here’s where it goes through their curriculum per grade level including pre schoolers.

    It’s not teaching pre schoolers to use guns, that was the other link (for 7 year olds and up).

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    • GiveMemes@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t see the problem with teaching 7 year olds firearm safety. You’re throwing your credibility out the window by including that.

      Beyond that though, it is sad, but it isn’t a gun problem. Yes, getting rid of guns would get rid of most shootings. However, it wouldn’t deal with the underlying problems causing these incidents, and it wouldn’t help the vast majority of violence in schools. Also, most school shootings, contrary to popular belief, are one or two people, not mass shootings. When our schools are a home to bullies, sexually abusive staff, racially segregated districts (yes, in the 21st century), economically segregated districts, republican defunding efforts, a loss of teachers especially during and immediately post-pandemic, and racially based gangs that perform regular violence against each other, it comes as no surprise, at least to me, that this violence is occurring. If it wasn’t a gun, it would be another weapon. We need to focus on the actual problems, not the ones that make us sad and grab our attention, especially when disarming the populace gives our already authoritarian police state even more power.

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      • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Re read, and stop setting up straw men. I criticized teaching seven year olds to shoot. Not teaching actual gun safety.

        I said it’s sad that we have to have the “heroes program” to teach pre schoolers about active shool shooters, because gun nuts don’t allow real gun controls or solutions.

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