Comment on Is this still freedom of speech or it crosses into hate?

• INeedMana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ok so now you’re asking to speak to the managers manger, and that’s gunna be the developers dude.

  Yeah, but maybe there is a button for that already, and I just can’t find it

  I get your sentiment bc I have to follow tos myself. But can I ask what other stuff would you put in the category of harmful? Just asking straight not yelling at you here.

  I don’t have a straight up list for that but some other examples I’d say would be:

  • how to get everything mortgaged to invest in our casino
  • how to get diazepine by cooking up cough pills (I’m inventing the names here)
  • how to spot <ethnicity>
  • maybe-snuff videos

  I find the porn shit to be in the obscene annoying category. Like I’m in a field trying to catch butterflies and all there are, are fucking mosquitos lol

  To me it’s not the porn that’s the problem, it’s the attitude in the community description
  Not so long ago there have been repeated news about mistreatment of women in India. Big part of Hindu ethnicity lives in India. IMO this kind of content normalizes aggressive objectification
  I know that porn is just a fantasy. But it seems (I won’t be spending time on searching for the papers, sorry. These are also ~last year) that for some reason this kind of fantasy does induce intimacy problems

  I know that there are many others like that and there are other areas of human life that gets skewed with content-insatiability and marketing. But if I can’t mark them all IMO doesn’t mean I shouldn’t mark the one I see

  And to freedom-fighters:
  Lemmy being a federation, if someone wants to create a server about cooking aspirin, I’m fine with that. But I chose this instance also because of what was in the rules. I felt that community was crossing the line and asked if mods feel the same

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  • Alice@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah, I see, so this is more personal for you. I get it, it’s fine, in not crucifyung you here so hopefully you don’t get angry. I come in peace with the following.

    Indian women? One thing I read up on a while back (Was reading why it’s more culturally wealthy to have sons and not daughters in idea) is (correct me if I’m wrong my memory isn’t the sharpest on this because it’s horrible and I don’t want to read about that again)

    Is because a boy will bring the family OUT of poverty and a girl will make and or keep the family POOR.

    A term here… Gendercide…

    That’s got nothing to do with what you think it does. Who knows maybe the definition now encompasses a third gender as they do in fact recognize in India, but during the time I learned about this term specifically to India, it’s common for women their to either self terminate their pregnancy or kill their child if born a female. By their own hand… um this is devastating stuff guys. Before I even knew about that I had zero clue that was going on there. It’s devastating.

    I don’t need to know any of your personal x y z but I understand how certain things sometimes strike a cord with us because we are close to what they are or maybe witnessed such in our own lives, heard stories etc. Some things are just personal period. That’s valid so I can see and understand why you feel this way.

    The only ‘advice’ here that I can give you, is to tell you to educate yourself on lemmy. Not that you aren’t. But in order to have power over things you must understand how it operates first.

    That said. About the moderators who seemingly don’t give a shit?

    THAT’S BECAUSE THEY DON’T.

    I’m not saying any of this to shit on you. I’m saying it because ot needs to be said. Literally anyone ANYONE can make a community. Whether it gets removed and they get banned is another topic.

    But what you’re really doing, is you’re asking for vile people to care my dear/sir/and or maedem, that is not humanly achievable by any means. It doesn’t make it right no that’s not what I’m saying. But community mods are not paid, neither are admins, they are for the most part not legally or financially bound to adhere to x y and z.

    Basically Any jackoff can make and mod communities. Focus though on what YOU DO HAVE control over though blocking and muting

    I’m sorry dude 😔 hope u feel better I mean that

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    • INeedMana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually no, it isn’t personal

      It comes from the very same thing you wrote in the second part of this post. No-one on Lemmy gets paid for their work. And communities have to be easy to set up, so “the committee” does not become a burned-out, too-powerful, bottleneck
      But that means that it is also OUR (non-mod, just a lemming) responsibility to mark stuff that we feel is out of line, when we have the capacity to do so. If lemmy.world agrees this is out of line, simply blocking and muting does not help the wider community, only solves the problem for me. Anyone else coming in with fresh account will see this shit on the front, local posts page

      And yes, the ones crossing the lines can easily come back. And I probably won’t catch them next time because I’ll be busy with my RL. That’s fine
      What I do have control over is whether I cover the eyes or not. When I don’t have capacity to mark something, I cover them and move along. Other times, I flag them. In this situation I couldn’t find a report button for a whole community so created a post

      It’s the same as a pile of trash on the pavement. If it’s not a burden in their schedule, a regular member of public should call the city about it. And when they don’t have time to do that, hopefully someone else will, that were busy the other day. How many of these someone-elses there are is not something we can control. But we can control if we are the someone else ATM

      If we want to have corp-less commons, we have to be part of the team sometimes, when we have the capacity to do so
      I had for this one, and now I’m moving on with my life :) ✌

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