Comment on AI trained on photos from kids’ entire childhood without their consent

• remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s been around for a while. It’s the fluff and the parlor tricks that need to die. AI has never been magic and it’s still a long way off before it’s actually intelligent.

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  • frog@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The other thing that needs to die is hoovering up all data to train AIs without the consent and compensation to the owners of the data.

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    • Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Cory Doctorow actually wrote a good article about this.

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      • frog@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I remember reading that a little while back. I definitely agree that the solution isn’t extending copyright, but extending labour laws on a sector-wide basis. Because this is the ultimate problem with AI: the economic benefits are only going to a small handful, while everybody else loses out because of increased financial and employment insecurity.

        So the question that comes to mind is exactly how, on a practical level, it would work to make sure that when a company scrapes data, trains and AI, and then makes billions of dollars, the thousands or millions of people who created the data all get a cut after the fact. Because particularly in the creative sector, a lot of people are freelancers who don’t have a specific employer they can go after. From a purely practical perspective, paying artists before the data is used makes sure all those freelancers get paid. Waiting until the company makes a profit, taxing it out of them, and then distributing it to artists doesn’t seem practical to me.

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• DdCno1@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It could be regulated into oblivion, to the point that any commercial use of it (and even non-commercial publication of AI generated material) becomes a massive legal liability, despite the fact that AI tools like Stable Diffusion can not be taken away. It’s not entirely unlikely that some countries will try to do this in the future, especially places with strong privacy and IP laws as well as equally strong laws protecting workers. Germany and France come to mind, which together could push the EU to come down hard on large AI services in particular. This could make the recently adopted EU AI Act look harmless by comparison.

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