One old fart that is the most progressive president in the last 40 years.
Biden used to be a segregationist. During the 2020 primary he said âPoor kids are just as smart as white kidsâ And thereâs loads and loads of video of him in congress back in the day saying all kinds of racist shit, talking about how he doesnât want his kids âgrowing up in a racial jungleâ.
He also said he would veto medicare for all if it got to his desk, he promised a âpublic optionâ for healthcare, and for awhile he had a super majority in congress to do it, but never did it.
He said âgive me breakâ and that he had âno empathyâ for young adults that got scammed with student debt and low wages
Kids in cages at the US/Mexico border? That started under Obama, and Biden was VP when that started happening if he had a problem with it, he couldâve said something back then, but he didnât. Obama Pretended that Flint Michiganâs water was fine, Biden was VP when that happened and didnât say anything about it.
Fracking? Making water supplies in the middle of the US flammable? That started under Obama and Biden said nothing about it. Opening The USâs section of the arctic to oil drilling on two separate occasions? Biden was VP when that happened and didnât say anything about it
To call Biden a progressive is extremely stupid and ignorant.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
True. You forgot to mention that heâs a literal fascist, though. Thatâs important information.
âŚdid you smoke crack between those two sentences? Were you typing while driving, got in a horrible accident leaving you with intermittent aphasia, then finished the comment anyway?
Because itâs either that or youâre trying to gaslight us all completely unnecessarily.
You donât have to pretend that heâs great. Hell, you donât even have to pretend that heâs not bad!
Just reminding people that heâs the only alternative to the vengeful fascist should be enough. After all, that was 100% of his campaign strategy the first time around and it (barely) worked!
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, W Bush, Obama, Trump. Take your pick.
âMost progressiveâ is not a high bar to clear. Itâs a reasonably fair claim that Biden has been more progressive than Obama, and definitely isnât outrageous enough to justify ranting about crack smoking and traumatic brain damage.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yet Biden managed to fail anyway.
Nope. Neither fair nor accurate. Obama picked Biden to assuage the fears of white conservative Democrats and Biden is the exact same guy that heâs always been. His age isnât much of a problem in itself, but his outdated policy positions and opinions are.
He entered politics before the invention of the walkman and he hasnât changed or acknowledged any of his mistakes since then.
For the reasons stated above, I beg to differ.
maniclucky@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
You havenât actually commented on anything recent, just vague references to his non-presidency years (people are allowed to change). Nor have you shown that any of the listed presidents were more progressive. Your argument is ânuh uhâ. You claim he failed. How? You didnât even take the low hanging fruit of âIsrealâ or âcontinued border bullshitâ.
Here, Iâll start: nominated the first black woman to the supreme court. More low hanging fruit, but youâve set the bar rather low. Heâs been doing quite a lot for the LGBT community, which is a pretty big reversal from his past.
See. Two sentences, one source, and now thereâs substance. Now. Refute me.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Oh good, Iâm not the only one to say it.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
and Biden still limbos way under it.
Biden forced the railroad workers to go back to work, violating their right to protest. Thatâs ACTUALLY fascism. The government forcing people to work at a company for shitty pay so the shitty company can get more money
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
And Obama broke the legal Occupy Wall Street and killed civilians in Yemen with drone strikes. So he takes the title instead? âMost progressiveâ is a comparative qualification, and he does not need to BE a progressive to take the title.
While I agree that the strike shouldnât have been broken and that the rail workers should have the right to stop as much work as they control in order to make their demands heard, Biden also became the first president to walk a picket line during that strike and ultimately got the rail workers a deal that their unions all were reportedly happy with. He may not be everything you want, but he IS the most pro-union president of my lifetime. Again, not a high bar to clear. Recognize progress when it happens, even if itâs not your dream come true.
Furthermore, with all the terrifying examples of actual rising fascism that surround us right now, donât muddy the waters with BS like that. It just makes you look like a troll.
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
The biden administration got the railworker what they were asking for.
Its not his fault you cant read.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Itâs okay to be Trump supporter on the internet Viking_Hippie. I know you like to pretend Biden is bad but donât be a useful idiot at least.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Really? That weak ass âonly Trump Supporters would criticize Bidenâ bullshit is all you have? After I specifically pointed out the fact that Trump is a literal fascist and stressed that Biden is a less bad choice? Pathetic.
Iâd say âright back at youâ, but youâre not even useful. Youâre just an idiot.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
No, youâre just literally parroting russian propaganda equating the two no matter how much you badmouth Trump. Everyone does that already, itâs not special, nobody cares anymore lol.
Saying insane patently false shit like you have about Biden though makes you a useful idiot which is even worse than an idiot. I know Iâm fucking stupid, Iâm talking to you on Lemmy right now proving your point.
The difference being that youâre actively making the world worse whether knowingly or unknowingly.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de â¨4⊠â¨months⊠ago
Did that idiot say Trump would jail his political foes? You mean like the Biden administration is currently trying to do to their political foes?