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• BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s basic debating dude, you bring up a point you should expect people to want to see evidence of that point.

  So far you have failed to provide a satisfactory reason for comparing a hate group to a religion.

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  • jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So far you have failed to provide a satisfactory reason for comparing a group of hateful racists (of which all of them are) to a religion (of which some of them believe justifies violence).

    I have, both rarely have violent incidences and are not a threat to society.

    Now it’s your turn to answer a question.

    How do nonviolent Muslims make the violent ones less of a threat to society?

    This goes way beyond basic prevalence. You just don’t seem to understand that.

    How does this go way beyond basic prevalence?

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    • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have, both rarely have violent incidences and are not a threat to society.

      You still don’t get your comparison doesn’t work because you can’t claim one isn’t a threat when one is literally baked into society and one is a religion which only some members interpret the teachings of with the justification of violence.

      I feel like a skipping record because you keep circling back to trying to claim your comparison is ok because you don’t see how entrenched racism (and in part white supremacy) is baked into society, without giving any further data points beyond “it’s rare”.

      In other words, you can’t stop focusing on prevalence of violent attacks between the two organized groups because in your mind, that’s all there is.

      First you’re wrong. But before I prove you wrong, you need the put the two things you’re trying (horribly) to compare on equal footing in some way that makes some damn sense.

      Muslims are not all violent.

      You claim there are good white supremacists.

      So give me an example of a good white supremacist. Otherwise, your comparison makes no sense and isn’t even worth arguing.

      Now it’s your turn to answer a question.

      Just as soon as you answer mine. I asked you first.

      How do nonviolent Muslims make the violent ones less of a threat to society?

      You’ve asked this before. What you’re missing is the existence of “good” white supremacists (which you’ve yet to prove exist) do not make the advantages white people have in society due to the result of historical white supremacy any better for POC. But one is MUCH more prevalent than the other.

      How prevalent you ask?

      Show me yours and I’ll show you mine. Show me the prevalence of “good” white supremacists, and I’ll show you how common white supremacy and racial bias is in our world.

      How does this go way beyond basic prevalence?

      I just told you. One is a religion of which only a fraction of the word belongs to, and of them only a sect of them believes in using violence to spread their message.

      The other has become more than just a single group or organization, and is now baked into our way of life.

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      • jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You still don’t get your comparison doesn’t work because you can’t claim one isn’t a threat when one is literally baked into society and one is a religion which only some members interpret the teachings of with the justification of violence.

        This is where you provide evidence

        In other words, you can’t stop focusing on prevalence of violent attacks between the two organized groups because in your mind, that’s all there is.

        Both threats are overblown and used as propaganda, that’s the common link.

        You claim there are good white supremacists.

        Back to this lie, I never claimed that there was a good white supremists. You have yet to provide where I made this claim.

        The other has become more than just a single group or organization, and is now baked into our way of life.

        Still waiting for evidence that white supremacy is now baked into out way of life.

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