Comment on The lemmy.ml Problem
kabe@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoI’ve seen it in the obvious communities like worldnews@lemmy.ml, sure. But in non-political ones? Not once.
Comment on The lemmy.ml Problem
kabe@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoI’ve seen it in the obvious communities like worldnews@lemmy.ml, sure. But in non-political ones? Not once.
Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lemmy.ml/post/16185014
lemmy.ml/post/7981013
lemmy.ml/post/15667300
Here are three posts from the memes-community. They got downvoted to oblivion (from the Users) and contain false information, but were not removed or anything from the moderators or admins.
Here is a Comment from someone who tells about his own experience in communist Hungary. His Comment got removed for violating rule 1 “Be civil and nice.”. Why does this comment of his own experience get removed for being not nice, but posts which contain propaganda and clearly insult people in an non-political Community like Memes did not?
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This Comment ( even though I disagree with its content) got removed for “Bourgeois Bootlicking” despite having Rule 2 in place, which states: “Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.” His Comment was as, if you ask me, maybe not totally polite but still acceptable.
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kabe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I appreciate the effort you’ve put in here, but still I do not see grounds for defederation.
The question isn’t “are there communities on lemmy.ml that are ideologically censored”, because of course there are; the question I am putting to you is “is the average user going about their business and not actively engaging in politically-oriented communities affected enough to warrant the largest Lemmy instance completely defederating?” I would still say no, personally.
taipan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I see more than enough justification to defederate. Being banned from the linux community because you dared to make a critical comment about China or Russia in another lemmy.ml community is ridiculous and unacceptable.
lemmy.world should only support communities with reasonable moderation policies that do not punish users for merely contradicting lemmy.ml’s political stances.
s38b35M5@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As a user subbed to multiple communities there, I never see this stuff. Ever. I stay far, far away from news and current events though. I actively seek news from sources, not aggregation platforms.
I would prefer to have the option to interact with those communities rather than have a few users brigade the admins into defederating. There’s a reason one of the SCOTUS cases that is cited as binding precedent in freedom of speech cases relates to the distribution of Communist propaganda. The marketplace of ideas is meant to be freely available to all, not curated by the most opinionated or noisy.
taipan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The political content published in lemmy.ml isn’t the main problem, it’s the fact that lemmy.ml moderators are banning users from general interest communities when they criticize China or Russia elsewhere. This happens not only when the criticism is posted within a lemmy.ml community, but also when the criticism is posted outside of lemmy.ml.
The behavior of these lemmy.ml mods corrupts the “marketplace of ideas” that you’re describing. lemmy.world should not present communities that only allow users to participate if they avoid making comments critical or China or Russia.