Comment on Funny, those guys don't usually agree on that much

• Baahb@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lol which party is pushing for progress?

  The one throwing kids in jail for protesting genocide?

  The one funnelling money to Israel hand over foot?

  The one that let Republicans stack the judiciary while crying that it was “unfair” but not actually working to stop it?

  Fuck the D’s bunch of cowards.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes.

    Fuck the GOP. They’re doing everything you criticise the Dems for, except worse. That’s what “progress” means. Not that everything is instantly perfect. That it’s less bad.

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    • Baahb@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is absolutely NOT what progress means, you fucking dipshit.

      prog·ress noun /ˈpräɡrəs/

      forward or onward movement toward a destination.
      "the darkness did not stop my progress"
      

      Moving slightly slower on enshittofication than the other guys does not meet that definition.

      Improvement, actual improvement, is what is required by progress.

      I’m not asking for everything to instantly be better. I’m demanding that things stop slowly getting worse.

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s getting less bad over time too, dumbass.

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• go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Liberal” in America is literally synonymous with “progressive”. The entire point of the party is progress.

  What are you even talking about? There are numerous Democrat politicians who don’t label themselves as progressive.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t say “Democrat” at all in my comment.

    All progressives are Democrats, not all Democrats are progressives. The Democratic party is a coalition.

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    • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does that mean there are Democrats who aren’t liberal?

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah. Bernie Sanders himself is not a Democrat, but most of his supporters are Democrats who are socialist, not liberal.

        Then you’ve got your Joe Manchin types, who basically agree with Republicans but don’t like the racism etc. Blue Dogs.

        Then you’ve got the split between “progressives” and “centrists”. Biden being more of a centrist, AOC being more of a progressive. “Liberal” means different things to different people, but most Democrats would say progressives are liberals while centrists aren’t.

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• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, the entire point of liberalism is continued private property rights.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    *Economic liberalism.

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Liberalism.

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, so you’re not just unaware that the different terms cause confusion

        You are maliciously spreading that confusion

        My fault for giving you the benefit of the doubt, I don’t normally do that.

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