Instantly became toxic? I’m shocked, shocked I say!
Comment on Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse?
duckington@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Unfortunately most of the more “conservative” instances became highly toxic and so most other instances have defederated with them.
randomname01@feddit.nl 10 months ago
rist097@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I think they would be more moderate if more moderate people would have opportunity to participate. Right now all of the non left instances or communities get too quickly defederated and deleted, so moderate people who would normally participate dont want to create na account on a completely defederated instance. The only thing you are left of there are some crazies.
Jimbo@yiffit.net 10 months ago
Well, the conservatives in those communities could try being less horrible pieces of shit and not bring hate to minority spaces, but that’s probably too much to ask
Puppy@kbin.social 10 months ago
Remember when being conservative meant you wanted lower tax?
Now it's a competition to see who's going to say the most toxic stuff and who can become the biggest piece of trash a human being can be
"I LOVE RUSSIA TRUMP IS MY GOD FUCK LGBTS ALL TRANS ARE PEDOPHILE SOROS BILL GATES WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE FAUCI OBAMA BUT HER EMAILS BUT HIS LAPTOPS BUD LITE WOKE WOKE"
like holy shit, calm down a bit...
mayo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That was like 15 years ago as I remember it. Being a conservative was about being a fiscal responsibility, and there was an expectation that we were all moving in the same direction socially. Now it’s all messed up.
Clent@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Give hate a chance!
euphoria@kbin.social 10 months ago
conservative spaces shouldn't need moderates to balance out their toxicity and crazy when left on their own, they simply shouldn't be toxic and crazy. why do they need their hand held? it gets defederated quickly because THEY always quickly turn their spaces into pure hate, and they choose to spread that. that's on them, not us.
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 10 months ago
I get what you’re saying. There’s a mindset in the fediverse that everyone on an instance is responsible for it. Even if the bad actors join later. The instance gets defederated but as a user it can be really hard to know if your instance is defederated.
It’s a deeply unpopular opinion and anyone who suggests that federation is simultaneously a huge advance and a big problem seems to get downvoted.
You’re right, ultimately instead of being exposed to a range of views some of which are challenging we’ll end up in little echo chambers.
We need more moderation and less defederation.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’m fine being in an echo chamber that Trans people deserve human rights. That’s a hill I’m willing to die on. If you disagree, you can stay out of my bubble, I’m not negotiating this point.
_thisdot@infosec.pub 10 months ago
This. If they identify as humans, they deserve human rights
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 10 months ago
I haven’t mentioned anything about Trans people at all ? There’s nothing to negotiate and I don’t agree that trans people have a right to be treated with respect and have their rights respected.
Hobbes@startrek.website 10 months ago
There’s a difference between being exposed to a range of views and being exposed to hatred.
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 10 months ago
And that’s were moderation (the act of moderation) comes in as a first step rather than instant defederation.
PsychedSy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m socially pretty left but a voluntarist and it feels pretty hostile. Even socially moderate or liberal cons will feel pretty bad. I’m just used to chillin’ in left spaces so it’s whatever.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Unsurprisingly
euphoria@kbin.social 10 months ago
funny how every time conservatives group up, their communities become so toxic, full of hate and conspiracies, that people have no choice but to cut ties lol
mayo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s because their political leader at the moment is a populist. They can’t help but be a bunch of cunts. Monkey see money do kind of thing.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Here’s an unpopular opinion. I saw a lot of the same elements in the Bernie crowd. Not for taking peoples rights or anything illegal like that mind you, but they were very quick to want to ignore the rules during the primary to throw out the choice of the Democratic majority in order to have Bernie win over Hillary. To this day I still hear conspiracy theory talking points about how Bernie really won, or how he was winning the real polls, etc. it’s the same populist rhetoric and it’s dangerous.
CountZero@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can’t just judge people based on their supporters.
CountZero@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can’t just judge people based on their supporters.