Modern day tankies are indistinguishable from fascists since they shill for fascist shitholes like Russia and China. I don’t care about intent, everyone can lie about it. You can’t lie about outcomes.
kool_newt@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Please don’t defederate because others have different views. There’s an ocean of difference between right wing fascists advocating for the elimination, enslavement, or oppression of innocent peoples and “tankies” who ultimately want to help people even if they have a different path to get there and some can be dicks about it.
misk@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Astroturfed@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is my problem. I support communist and socialist eonomic ideals and reforms, all these tankies claiming China or worse Russia are somehow actually communist hurts the cause. They’re basically fascist nationalists claiming to be communist. It’s infuriating…
Grangle1@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Your argument makes absolutely no sense. “Don’t defederate because you disagree with their views” when it comes to left-wing/communist extremists, yet you turn around and complain about places with right-wing/fascist extremist places existing. As others have said, doesn’t matter what “side” they’re on, violent extremists are cut from the same cloth in that way. Personally, I’m with the admins here, in that I don’t mind being federated with either of them so long as they play by the rules here. But then again, I tend to stick to my own interests and set my default view to Subscribed, and don’t venture into the All feed much. Even then, I haven’t really noticed what people are complaining about very much. If people here are smart enough to know real misinformation when they see it, they can just scroll on and ignore it.
Astroturfed@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t have an issue with people having different views, but I had to block a ton of that shit due to the blatant propaganda. I have to think it’s filled with Chinese bots at this point. Saying the Tianamen square massacre didn’t happen is akin to Holocaust denial. It’s insane propaganda.
kool_newt@lemm.ee 10 months ago
To me, these are not equivalent. Things are bad because they harm or promote harm to innocent people. A person not believing a particular, and controversial historical event, on it’s own, does not make a person bad, insane, or mean they’re shilling.
Holocaust deniers are typically bad people because denial of that event is part of their larger anti-semitism. It’s an aspect of their hatred of innocent people. It is acceptance of genocide.
Denying that the events of Tiananmen Square in 1989 were a massacre is not a part of hating innocent people. It’s instead based on not trusting the U.S. government, an organzation with an incredible history of lying, gaslighting, and media manipulation. Unfortunately, they seem to instead trust a different government with a similarly incredibly bad history.