Also if the vegan is being preachy and judgemental that this somehow totally undermines their point, which can now be ignored because some vegans somewhere were hypothetically rude.
We can have a conversation about effective and respectful rhetoric, but the material and ethical facts of the argument are not going to change.
johnlobo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
this kind of comment is exactly what make people hates vegan. lmao.
bastion@feddit.nl 5 months ago
I don’t hate that people choose to be vegan. I hate the self-righteous bullshit humans get about veganism, science, religion, and anything else they start considering a moral high ground.
You don’t have a moral high ground. You have a biological and/or social niche. That’s enough to be proud of, without dissing other people’s shit, or pretending yours doesn’t stink.
Specal@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Being proud of yourself for not eating meat doesn’t stop the mass amounts of suffering in the farms though.
I became vegan once someone showed me what it meant to eat meat, had they not done that I’d still be eating animals grown in pens.
bastion@feddit.nl 5 months ago
I eat animals I grow, except in a few exceptional circumstances - minimal enough that, if everybody ate meat the way I do, the industry would fall.
It’s good you’re living up to what you believe in. It’s a bad idea to live off of suffering you can’t yourself bear.
UckyBon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What would make you love vegans?
Deway@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Many non-vegan psychologists do agree with it though.