Comment on Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to Biden, who has already committed to signing it

• natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fascism can exist in more than one place.

  And it can take a far more dangerous and intractable form in one place compared to another.

  You are vastly, vastly understating the degree of fascist control in China, you’d have to in order to try and even begin to try and compare the US and China. You may as well try to claim that downloading Russian spyware gives you better info on the US affairs because they’re our adversary as well so they must be a better source of information than anything in the US, it makes no sense.

  China has a pointed interest in deceiving you, they do not have any interest in ensuring you have accurate information about the US and its history, you’re foolish to believe that they would.

  There is no true information about the US on TikTok that is not available to me outside of China’s information ecosystem. Yes, you’re not going to get reliable information from corporate media or far-right outlets, but that has not stopped me from learning about the black spots in American history. In fact I was taught many of those black spots in American schools. Go ask a person in China what actually happened in Tienanmen or in Hong Kong, or Tibet or what is happening to the Uyghurs as we speak.

  Here’s the difference that you are keen to ignore; The US information ecosystem is not a monolith. It’s why I can go and find sources that are reporting accurately about events in Palentine, or the protests on Columbia campuses. It’s why I learned about the Trail of Tears, the Tulsa Massacre, or The Battle of Blair Mountain in school, why I can find that kind of information freely on the Internet.

  By contrast, the Chinese information ecosystem is a monolith, by design. It is built so that the state has control over all information and can censor at will. They are far ahead of the US in this regard, and when you carry water for the CCP by equating them to the US, claiming they’re better or “just as bad” you are pushing us further into fascism, not out of it.

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  • trevron@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uh huh, no shit and eugenics was essentially born in the US. All information I learned here in the US.

      History doesn’t change the fact that China still represents the next step towards a higher, more all-encompassing form of fascism and that your apologetics only further humanities movement in that direction by normalizing it.

      China not having the geopolitical power to act on all of their worst inclinations does not mean those inclinations don’t exist.

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    • Karzyn@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Except that I did learn about that in high school.

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