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• Vodulas@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Except the operational headquarters is not in China. LA and Singapore are the operational headquarters of TikTok. I think you are conflating ByteDance and TikTok as the same entity, and that is not the case, and quite on purpose. TikTok is a subsidiary of ByteDance, and from almost all accounts the LA based CEO makes decisions. They are not sending data to China, they are sending it to Singapore. There are alleged cases of ByteDance employees having access, but nothing has been proven (not saying it won’t be, but we can’t operate on speculation). Also, data brokers exist. China can get “all the data from US citizens” outside of TikTok.

  I am not sure if you are oversimplifying on purpose, but if not you should probably look closer at the corporate structure of TikTok instead of spreading incorrect info.

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Where do you get the information you are spreading? I would like to learn more if you know good sources.

    Except the operational headquarters is not in China.

    • craft.co/bytedance/locations: “ByteDance is headquartered in Beijing, 43 N 3rd Ring W Rd, China, and has 7 office locations.”
    • bj.linkedin.com/company/bytedance: “China, China 1,041,094 followers”

    instead of spreading incorrect info.

    How can you judge and say it is incorrect, if you don’t actually know all details? Your opinion is not much more correct. What you probably mean is, I should not spread info that is not proven to be correct.

    They are not sending data to China, they are sending it to Singapore.

    but nothing has been proven (not saying it won’t be, but we can’t operate on speculation)

    If it’s not proven, then you are speculating that China does not get the data as well. If that was correct what you are saying, then the US government would not ban Tik Tok. Especially you follow up with a statement

    China can get “all the data from US citizens” outside of TikTok.

    which is probably harder and more complicated than just getting it from Tik Tok. ByteDance is a company for collecting information, so its right in the hands of China.

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    • Vodulas@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      TikTok is literally a separate entity from ByteDance. They are owned by ByteDance, but they are not the same company and operate separately. Again, you are conflating the two

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok

      If it’s not proven, then you are speculating that China does not get the data as well.

      That is not how the burden of proof works. I am not the one claiming the data is sent to China, you are. Please provide evidence of that.

      I am claiming the data is sent to Singapore, which all evidence points to

      reuters.com/…/tiktok-moves-us-user-data-oracle-se…

      which is probably harder and more complicated than just getting it from Tik Tok

      Probably not harder. Keeping a multinational social media platform going seems way more complex than buying the info. Which is why the US government does it (it is also a way to skirt the constitution, BTW)

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        TikTok is literally a separate entity from ByteDance. They are owned by ByteDance, but they are not the same company and operate separately. Again, you are conflating the two

        www.bytedance.com/en/products : Our Products > TikTok

        So they have access to the user data from TikTok. Why wouldn’t they are products from that company? Companies split up and organize together to overcome limitations of the system. This is not fan fiction, it is reality how many companies operate.

        I am not the one claiming the data is sent to China, you are.

        No, the US goverment claims that. You mistaken this with my opinion. I am just telling the goverment is blocking Tik Tok because they think China is doing this.

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