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Comment on They're openly allowing illegal immigrants to vote in federal elections now in Arizona.

PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

From what I can tell, is that 7.2 million immigrants have been released into the U.S. under Biden’s administration.

But the proportion of that 7.2 million outside of Arizona are irrelevant in this conversation. They’re not voting in Arizona. And what I said earlier applies to the proportion that are in Arizona.

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Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sure, not all of them would be in Arizona, but some would be. And without checking, how do you enforce the voting requirements?

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- PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  how do you enforce the voting requirements?
  
  I guess we’re both going to learn something today, because, as of writing this, I have no idea. So let’s dig in! Assuming a non-citizen immigrant attempts to vote in Arizona, how do they enforce voting requirements, namely, that only U.S. citizens vote in federal elections?
  
  My first thought is the process of voting itself.
  
  First, the non-U.S. citizen immigrant must register to vote. Pretty hard to do for someone that isn’t a U.S. citizen, a resident of Arizona, and isn’t 18+ years old.. Proof of citizen is required merely for registering. So, unless mistakes happen, then all registered voters in Arizona are U.S. citizens.
  
  Right, but the picture above says it’s not required. In that case, you’re given the Federal Voter Registration Form (this is the same link shown at the bottom of OP’s pic). When you get the PDF it asks for an ID #:
  
  Federal law requires that states collect from each registrant an identification number. You must refer to your state’s specific instructions for item 6 regarding information on what number is acceptable for your state. If you have neither a drivers license nor a social security number, please indicate this on the form and a number will be assigned to you by your state.
  
  If I were an election auditor, my first thought would be to look at box 6 for “None”.
  
  Holy crap, this is beyond confusing. If I were a non-citizen immigrant willing to throw away my opportunity in the U.S., I’d be racking my brain about how to vote for Biden to open the border. Because, this is tough. You should try it. Walk through the steps of registering to vote. Even on the federal voter registration for it explicitly says:
  
  To register in Arizona you must:
  
  • be a citizen of the United States
  
  • be a resident of Arizona and your county at least 29 days preceding the next election
  
  • be 18 years old on or before the next general election
  
  • not have been convicted of treason or a felony (or have had your civil rights restored)
  
  • not currently be declared an incapacitated person by a court of law
  
  So, like…are they going to ask for proof of citizenship anyway? Super unclear.
  
  A better question is how are non-citizen immigrants voting in Arizona in the first place? lol
  
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  - Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ok, thanks for looking into it.
    
    If I were a non-citizen immigrant willing to throw away my opportunity in the U.S.
    
    Immigrants, illegal or not, dont get deported for committing crimes.
    
    A better question is how are non-citizen immigrants voting in Arizona in the first place
    
    I would presume just like anyone else, and hope no one checks.
    
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