Comment on this one goes out to the arts & humanities
yoink@hexbear.net 2 months agoits more like the pizza shop complaining that you’re cooking frozen pizza and calling yourself a chef
all power to you if you want to just consume slop, but dont complain when you turn around years later and the quality of everything across the board has gone even further to shit cos you were so happy you could type in words and see anything you wanted for all the 15 minutes of dopamine it gave you
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Artist incomes are threatened by the rise of Generative models. Especially mediocre artists who Stable Diffusion have already surpassed.
Technology changes the world and obsoletes some professions. It has been like this for ever. Artists are not any different.
axont@hexbear.net 2 months ago
even mediocre artists actually create art, which is something stable diffusion can’t do and will never be able to do. You completely misunderstand what art is and what the purpose of it is. You understand art as a technical profession creating a product, which is why you equate AI slop with art.
yoink@hexbear.net 2 months ago
this is what it always comes down to
they don’t respect artists, they don’t respect artistic labour but they so desperately need the fruits of said labour and so the only option left is to cheat and lie
hell, it’s evident in the last sentence of their reply - that they see ‘Artist’ as a profession that is getting ‘Obsoleted’, as if the only reason art exists in the first place is because we as a society have been too archaic, and we would jump at the chance to drop the creative process in a heartbeat
complete and total alienation from creativity as a human experience
axont@hexbear.net 2 months ago
it’s so bleak and I can’t sympathize with their perspective at all. It’s like the most they get out of art is to see a picture or a movie and say it looks cool. They don’t like art, they like decoration. They don’t actually care about seeing a representation of another perspective. They don’t care about themes, symbols, or what an artist is trying to communicate, nor do they even want to know.
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
yet AI produces beautiful images.
This is not any different from the invention of paint or coloured glass improving quality of art.
axont@hexbear.net 2 months ago
yeah that’s not the point of art nor what it is. What art looks like isn’t connected to the quality of it. Go get some perspective by engaging with artists sometime. I’m out. You’re not a serious person. See ya.
yoink@hexbear.net 2 months ago
genuinely curious what you mean by ‘mediocre artists’ and the idea that Stable Diffusion has ‘surpassed’ them
do you have any examples? or is this just a vibes thing?
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
take a look at civitai: civitai.com/images
there are some amazing gems there.
yoink@hexbear.net 2 months ago
that doesn’t answer my question though - what are you defining as a mediocre artist? or is anything that doesn’t fit the ‘hyper realistic AI’ look count as mediocre?
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 months ago
How will AI take over creative professions when it can’t even perform rote professions? AI chatbots keep going rogue and lying to customers about company policies (and even the actual law), image generators can’t get enough of illegal and violent imagery, facial recognition AI’s keep identifying black people as all looking the same - in art the value of a peice is constrained by the meaning it has to people, so why do you think that LLMs and all the other predictive generators we laughably call intelligent will be able to create meaningful peices by putting together the most likely set of pixels?
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
they are improving vey fast.
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 months ago
I didn’t ask when, I asked how. How is a prediction engine, that is something that guesses a likely output based on past information, going to display creativity?