Comment on The left are officially full blown nazis now.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 6 months agoThe black Panthers were involved in shootouts/turf wars with the black nantionalists, they kidnapped and tortured people, pouring boiling water on a member for 3 days before shooting him and dumping him in a swamp. Had female members savagely beat to keep them in line. Ambushed police officers, traffic narcotics…
Does that meet your criteria where you would condone someone going full klansman and putting burning crosses at churches and mosques that supported the black Panthers?
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 6 months ago
No.
They have to embody the ideals they hate towards another group.
Look, it’s fine. I get that it’s hard to understand. That’s part of the appeal of the original article, where it redirects you back to the historical meaning of the swastika and insists that it’s meaning is fixed.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No true scottsman, I get it. Ambushing police officers and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, ambushing black nantionalists and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, pouring boiling water on a person doesn’t count as hate.
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 6 months ago
No, all of that definitely counts as hate.
It doesn’t count as black supremacist hate. So, yeah “no true scottsman”, but the entire argument hinges on what a nazi/white supremacist is. It’s not a fallacy in this case. Because there’s a difference between hate generally and a specific kind of hate.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Are you one of those liberals that thinks black people can’t be racists.
Ambushing white police officers certainly sounds racists, black nantionalism was part of the black panthers that’s certainly a racists movement.