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• areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are you an American or something? A pot is just a subtype of pan to me. Does pan only mean frying pan where you live?

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I live in Canada, where a pan is shallow and has 1 long handle and a pot is deep and typically has 2 small handles. A pot isn’t a pan, although you can get crossovers like a saucepan which is typically deep like a pot but has a single long handle like a pan. If it’s not shallow it isn’t a pan. Pans can include frying pans, skillets, saute pans, even a wok would be considered a pan. Pans are for cooking at high heat. Pots are for boiling things or for preparing something that’s mostly liquid: soups, stews, sauces, etc. You can also have roasting pans or cake pans for use in the oven, but once again, the key thing is they have shallow sides compared to the bottom.

    To me, a pot being a subtype of pan is like saying a knife is just a subtype of spoon. They’re completely different things.

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    • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I am English. I would never call a cake tin a cake pan. Same with a roasting tray is never called a roasting pot. For it to be a pan it has to go on a hob. Even the way you describe things like a sauce pan seems contradictory, by your definition it should be a pot rather than a pan. It’s interesting to note what local differences exist in the use of language.

      You definitely can do high heat cooking in a pot. Most of them are stainless steel or cast iron after all, the material doesn’t care.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You definitely can do high heat cooking in a pot. Most of them are stainless steel or cast iron after all, the material doesn’t care.

        Sure, but most of the time when you’re doing high-heat cooking you’re not using a lot of liquid so a pan with its shallow sides makes it easier to get a spatula or tongs in to move things around. The high sides are only useful when you want to heat a large volume of stuff. Typically that means you’re using a water-based liquid (even something like a tomato sauce is mostly water based), so the heat will be at most 100C.

        I suspect the British version of “pan” including what I’d call a pot must be from after North American English and British English diverged. The etymology of pan says that it has referred to a shallow thing since even before ancient Greek:

        This is supposed to be from Latin patina “shallow pan, dish, stew-pan,” from Greek patane “plate, dish,” from PIE *pet-ano-, from root *pete- “to spread.”

        I guess the North American English dialects kept this meaning of a shallow thing, whereas British English focused on whether or not it goes on a burner (which apparently you call a hob).

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