Comment on Steam :: Introducing Steam Families

• trigonated@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And it’s bizarre that some of them seem to get angry when someone else points the issues out.

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  • The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Looks weird from my side too, when someone starts frothing at the mouth about monopolies when steam is so much as mentioned.

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  • Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its the braindead takes that are getting the Ire, Steam ISNT a monopoly, and the 30% cut is industry standard

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• Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No ones ignoring the real issues. Steam isnt a monopoly and the 30% cut is industry standard. I’m not going to fault those who take issue with “Valve Time” or Valves shit communication. And frankly, the good stuff doesnt need to last forever, as soon as Steam enshitifies, GoG or Itch’ll be there to dethrone it, and Piracy’ll be there to get our games back if worst case scenario happens. You want better competition? Shit on Epic and EA to actually provide it

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  • Spedwell@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is demonstrably wrong. The 30% cut is standard because Steam has used the same strategy as Amazon to fix prices across the market (a “Platform Most Favored Nation” clause—see the Wolfire Games v. Valve class action). Competing storefronts cannot undercut Steam, so why would they take less than a 30% cut?

    Epic Games Store—which is trying to undercut steam at a 12% fee—still list games at the same price as on Steam because of Valve has strongarmed publishers into fixing the prices. If Epic is charging 18% less but we the consumers are paying just as much, how is that not blatantly anti-competitive and anti-consumer?

    enshitifies

    Oh good, you are familiar with Cory Doctorow. He has an article on how Amazon abuses their position using the exact same playbook Valve uses.

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  • DingoBilly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t care about the things you mentioned, but yes, those are also issues.

    I was talking more about the issues around gambling and making loops specifically to take advantage of gamers with problems.

    As well as the real problem that a single leader leading a company/nation will mean that company/nation always fails. The successors will inevitably mess it up sometime.

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    • Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You say this like the competition hasnt already failed at the get go. Valve has the market share it has because no one else is offering anything better. Itch and GoG offer some things Valve doesnt, and because of that I wont say ALL of Valves competition is shit, but MOST of the competition STARTED off as your worst fear for what Valve MIGHT become

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      • DingoBilly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You are doing exactly what I said.

        Valve is good, but they have shit features and I’m not sure why you’re defending them (but maybe you’re just a troll/ignoring my points?).

        I don’t care about the competition - it’s like saying a person is molesting a child but hey, those two over there are molesting multiple children and murdering them! So they’re worse!

        Marketshare is also a poor predictor as it’s often the first person to market as opposed to what’s best.

        Think of it another way - Google has the most marketshare of search. Is it the best and is it doing only good things? If you say yes to both then I can’t help you further.

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