Comment on Vegan dies from starvation
chetradley@lemm.ee 1 year agoI appreciate the concern, but I’ve already got one kid with another on the way.
My claim was that a plant-based (no animal products) diet can be nutritionally complete. I’m backing that claim up by citing non-animal sources of nutrients.
You told me I’m incapable of arguing in good faith in the same sentence as an ad hominem. You’re not just trolling me, are you?
masterofballs@exploding-heads.com 1 year ago
And my point is that we don’t define a rule by stray data points. Even if one person manages to survive on a unnatural diet like a vegan diet without significant problems it does not make it nutritionally complete, or healthy.
There is no evidence you can produce a healthy society without animal products. Because it’s never been done. Every single body builder (usually whey protein when they started), every single Olympic athlete has eatin meat. You may be able to find 1 who is lying and said they were born vegan. I think I saw 1 athlete who said that but I don’t buy it and even 1 doesn’t disapprove the rule. Nearly if not every single high performance individual and society on the planet was built eating animals.
No amount of 20 year old made youtube videos has shown otherwise. No fat Harvard grad clinging to bad meta analysis science has shown meat to shorten a life with actual observational science. Because it doesn’t
chetradley@lemm.ee 1 year ago
By your logic, since you can’t produce a long term study of health outcomes for vegan populations, your claim is also void. Also, neither the article or I made any claims about the health effects of meat.
masterofballs@exploding-heads.com 1 year ago
I have 10,000 years of human health outcomes to prove eating meat is healthy. I don’t need long term data to show that not eating meat, only eating candy, is unhealthy.
The fact that vegans can’t become Olympic athletes is proof it isn’t healthy.
chetradley@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The question was never “is meat healthy?” It’s “is eating animal products necessary for human health?” as you originally claimed. Are you still taking the position that animal products are inherently necessary for human health?