Comment on Why do Americans keep falling for the Democrat and Republican scare mongering and propaganda?
jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 1 year agoMainstream media is generally propaganda, too, even lots of “left leaning” media.
For example, we don’t hear about the war crimes committed by Ukraine, only ones by Russia.
We don’t hear about how the US was actively working with right-wing groups in Ukraine to overthrow the government in 2014, efforts that helped further fracture relationship between Ukraine and Russia.
Or the military posturing by NATO in a geographically adjacent country to Russia.
War makes us forget nuance and accept simple absolute truths like Russia attacked Ukraine and therefore Ukraine must defend itself.
And for the record: fuck Russia for this ongoing conflict. They are the perpetrators, for sure. But all historical context to this conflict is completely thrown out in the eyes of the mainstream media.
Where are the anti-war democrats? Where are the people looking to end the war, rather than further fuel it with weapons? Nowhere to be found.
You know why? Because war makes too much money. Americans are paying to subsidize the cost of weapons to keep the war going. We the people are funding this.
We say “what are we supposed to do? Just let Russia invade Ukraine?” And then turn a blind eye to Palestinians occupied by Israel.
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
Voting to send Ukraine all of the weapons and resources they can possibly use. That is the only legitimate anti-war stance. It's a remarkably black and white scenario where an authoritarian country invaded its democratic neighbor. Russia could end the war immediately simply by leaving. Ukraine, on the other hand, needs to actually win the war. Anything other than an absolute Ukrainian victory where Russia is forced out of all of Ukraine is a victory for war. The real-world anti-war position is that war must not be allowed to be an effective means of aggression. If war works, we get more war. When dictators learn that war doesn't work, we'll have less war. As long as Putin isn't willing to pull back his soldiers and abandon all claims to all Ukrainian land, the only other option is to defeat him in battle.
Anybody who opposes arming Ukraine is objectively pro-war because the only plausible outcome in that scenario is a Russian victory.