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This is a bit of a miscommunication. But an extension is not native. And all version of Ubo are extensions, something else doesnt exist.

You can define native a few different ways in english language so i get how it might be confusing if its not your first, but its similar to how a mod for a game is not native to the game.

When you mentioned “native adblock” in chromium. That does exists and it requires no extension. But there never as fully featured as the full Ubo extension which only works on firefox.

I hope that helps.

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artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

When you mentioned “native adblock in chromium” That does exists and it requires no extension.

Yes. That’s what I’m referring to when I said 4 times that it’s not an extension.

But they are never as fully featured as the full Ubo extension

But it is.

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- webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I am going to do my best to explain the technical side in simple terms.
  
  Chromium browsers use something called manifest V3.
  
  V3 is a google designed “upgrade” to manifest V2 and it blocks certain advanced features provided by comprehensive adblocker like Ubo.
  
  Wether an adblock is native or an extension does nothing circumvent the native limitations of V3 thay exists on all chromium browsers. If you have proof such hack exists that would actually be a technews worthy event.
  
  The only (mainstream) browsers that still supports V2 is firefox. Which is therefor the only browser that allows all the features of the full ublock origin. Firefox has no inbuild adblocker to compare.
  
  I can believe that the features that work on V3 encompass your personal needs and that of many other people. But they are literaly not the same.
  
  Some examples of features included in comprehensive v2 adblockers that are limited on v3 are:
  
  (Not a full list)
  
  per site dynamic filtering
  
  per site disabling of javascript
  
  more detailed logger
  
  filters relying on runtime logic
  
  more comprehensive element picker
  
  I (and the Ubo developers) would be happy to see any proof that shows otherwise.
  
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  - artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    Wether an adblock is native or an extension does nothing to circumvent the native limitations of V3 that exists on all chromium browsers
    
    That’s simply not true. MV3 literally only applies to extensions.
    
    The only (mainstream) browser that still supports V2 is firefox
    
    Also untrue, lots of Chromium browsers still support V2.
    
    I can believe that the features that work on V3 encompass your personal needs
    
    This has nothing to do with my “personal needs”, this is a technical discussion.
    
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    webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Apparently you’re right that MV3 only restricts extensions, not native blockers. I stand corrected on that part.
    
    However, uBO on MV2 still has features that no known native ad blocker on a Chromium-based browser offers.
    
    The closest match I could find is Brave Shields, but it still lags behind on per-site control, mainly because it has no dynamic filtering matrix, and it has no logger comparable to uBO’s.
    
    To date, nothing matches or beats Firefox + uBO, so the original point still stands.
    
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