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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don’t know what that has to do with the conversation. For the third time, we’re talking about a native implementation. Not an extension.

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is a bit of a miscommunication. But an extension is not native. And all version of Ubo are extensions, something else doesnt exist.

    You can define native a few different ways in english language so i get how it might be confusing if its not your first, but its similar to how a mod for a game is not native to the game.

    When you mentioned “native adblock” in chromium. That does exists and it requires no extension. But there never as fully featured as the full Ubo extension which only works on firefox.

    I hope that helps.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      When you mentioned “native adblock in chromium” That does exists and it requires no extension.

      Yes. That’s what I’m referring to when I said 4 times that it’s not an extension.

      But they are never as fully featured as the full Ubo extension

      But it is.

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      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I am going to do my best to explain the technical side in simple terms.

        Chromium browsers use something called manifest V3.

        V3 is a google designed “upgrade” to manifest V2 and it blocks certain advanced features provided by comprehensive adblocker like Ubo.

        Wether an adblock is native or an extension does nothing circumvent the native limitations of V3 thay exists on all chromium browsers. If you have proof such hack exists that would actually be a technews worthy event.

        The only (mainstream) browsers that still supports V2 is firefox. Which is therefor the only browser that allows all the features of the full ublock origin. Firefox has no inbuild adblocker to compare.

        I can believe that the features that work on V3 encompass your personal needs and that of many other people. But they are literaly not the same.

        Some examples of features included in comprehensive v2 adblockers that are limited on v3 are:

        (Not a full list)

        • per site dynamic filtering
        • per site disabling of javascript
        • more detailed logger
        • filters relying on runtime logic
        • more comprehensive element picker

        I (and the Ubo developers) would be happy to see any proof that shows otherwise.

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