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• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I do understand what consensus means. Mark Tauger, for example, is seen as the world’s foremost expert on the 1930s famine among liberal scholars, and is far from a communist. The duma does not actually back up what you believe. You really have nothing to go off of, do you? This is just MAGA-tier fact denial, it’s pure reflex.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The only guy I can cite is seen as an expert, but I won’t provide any proof, and the other 99 historians are all paid by the CIA. The Russia. Duma are a bunch of Yankees and are lying, and all the documents are fabricated, please just look at this letter from Stalin which clearly exculpates Stalin.

    It has religion vibes: “the Bible is true, it says so in the Bible and anything in the Bible is true”.

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I cited multiple sources, and you seem to only be responding to one of my points when I responded to the entirety of yours. You also seem to have your talking points confused, because the Russian Duma does not say that the 1930s famine was a genocide:

      The Russian Federation officially says that the Holodomor is not a genocide.[99] The State Duma passed a resolution in 2008 stating that the Holodomor should not be considered genocide, stating in part: “There is no historical proof that the famine was organized along ethnic lines. Its victims were millions of citizens of the Soviet Union, representing different peoples and nationalities living largely in agricultural areas of the country.”[100] The Russian government condemned the Soviet regime’s “disregard for the lives of people in the attainment of economic and political goals”, along with “any attempts to revive totalitarian regimes that disregard the rights and lives of citizens in former Soviet states”, while stating that “there is no historic evidence that the famine was organized on ethnic grounds.”[101]

      Per Wikipedia. The right-wing post-soviet government declared it a problem of mismanagement to discredit socialism as socialism is still popular in Russia and would hurt their present capitalist class, but were insistent even then not to call it a genocide, because there’s no evidence. You have no proof nor any idea what you’re talking about, again, it’s all reflex from you. It’s just MAGA on your part.

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