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• Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I tried but it didn’t work. Kept getting hung up when I tired to sign in.

  Also doesn’t using AI to detect AI defeat the purpose of screening for AI?

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  • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    the openai one does not require signin.

    it’s not AI. it’s a kind of hidden watermark or steganography. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_watermarking

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So if it’s been steganographied with something the tool you use doesn’t check for, you’d never know. If someone’s post-processed the picture enough, the steganography will be destroyed and you’d never know. If the image was generated with a model that never embedded anything, you’d never know.

      So as ever, AI detectors are unreliable snake oil and should not be mentioned except to point out how unreliable they are.

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    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Hey, thanks I learned something (I think). Computer shit isn’t my area of nerdery, but from what I gather AI images gets stamped with invisible water marks and you can detect these with software (rather than AI) if that software knows what the watermark is (which is kept secret by the AI provider)

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      • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        that’s exactly right! it’s kept secret because if someone figure out exactly how it’s done it becomes easy to remove. so it’s security through obscurity, but it’s what we have unfortunately.

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