Comment on Jury unanimously acquits Churchill statue spray-painter
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day agoI understand that what you’re talking about could be understood to be “the law” but it’s not what I’m talking about when I use the word, and I don’t think it’s what most people understand by the word.
But OK, when you say “the law” you mean “what people get convicted for.” I’m saying this person probably should have been convicted, but you haven’t even said whether you agree, because picking a different definition for a word doesn’t help decide what should or should not happen.
Zensate@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The law is the will of the people so if they weren’t concicted they shouldn’t be. The law does not exisr independently of humans, because it is an imaginary concept we made up.
So the law is just an excuse for us to punish the people we want to punish and not punish the people we don’t want to. All abstract concepts die when there are no more humans, they are not things onto themselves.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Seems to be what you’re saying
Zensate@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes, because our system isn’t designed for justice. The police doesn’t try to find the truth, they just try to find someone to charge. The defender doesn’t try to find the truth,but to escape conviction for his client, likewise with the prosecutor. The judge is there to follow the law as well as possible, there is bobody that cares about justice.
The very idea that you need a prosecutor and a defender makes no sense if you think about it. At sociey that wanted justice would just have a. Bunch of expert colaborate to find the truth and sentence based on that.
The idea that the process of justice must be carried out like a competition in which both sides are trying to trip each other up and trying to win at any cost through manipulation and omission with no regards to truth or justice means that the system has no interest in either.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
Edgy. There are standard arguments for why an adversarial legal system tends to achieve good outcomes. I’m not really interested in digging up standard arguments though so I guess we’ll leave it here.