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commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybean as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.

so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.

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QuaffPotions@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.

ourworldindata.org/soy

And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.

pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…

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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.
  
  what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
  
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  - QuaffPotions@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.
    
    Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I’m informing you on a complex subject matter
    
    no, you’re not.
    
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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  ourworldindata.org/soy
  
  i’m so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production
  
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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses
  
  sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
  
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  - QuaffPotions@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Where are you even getting this nonsense about using soybean oil waste to make feed? Where does it say that is what’s happening?
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    if you don’t know how the industry works, maybe you shouldn’t be the one deciding how it should be run
    
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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works.
  
  the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.
  
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