your assumption of bad faith is itself bad faith
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QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 10 months agoYes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.
All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This isn’t formal debate school. Welcome to the real internet.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
this is a thought-terminating cliche
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
If you had bothered to go to the link
like I don’t know who earthling ed is
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Would you care to elaborate on what’s misleading about these statistics?
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybean as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.
so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.
ourworldindata.org/soy
And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.
pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…